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Evanescence - Fallen (2003)




Average User Rating: 8.01 out of 10
Total votes: 92 (Click here to vote)
Total comments: 113

Tracks
1. Going Under
2. Bring Me To Life
3. Everybody's Fool
4. My Immortal
5. Haunted
6. Tourniquet
7. My Imaginary
8. Taking Over Me
9. Hello
10. My Last Breath
11. Whisper

For more on Evanescence, click here.


Posted on 01-01-2005 by chemical_girl
[QUOTE=Mattlock]Emo? :lol: Sure...

I told you Andrew. ;)[/QUOTE]
not you. opie. duh... he posted it. hm.. I forgot to put his name on it. Oh well. You clearly did not post that last part.

Posted on 01-01-2005 by Metal2themasses
Pretty frickin' good although not as good as Lacuna Coil. :clap:

Posted on 01-02-2005 by God's Jedi
I gave this CD a 10? Gah, I hate myself.

Now that I've actually owned it for a while, I really think 7 is a good number. Bring Me to Life was good the first 200 times I heard it, and the album version of My Immortal kicks the single all the way to Boise. There are a few other notably good songs on here, and Amy's vocals really are (or...were) a breath of fresh air. But, it's not perfect, or even in the same time zone as perfect. So, 7 is a good number.

*changes vote from 10 to 7*

I can't actually do that? Oh. Ok.

Posted on 01-02-2005 by Art
I can do that for you.:D Still a mod here. Mwahahah.

I don't remember what I gave it, but I would give it a 7 or 8 right now if I had not already voted. It's a great disc.

Posted on 01-03-2004 by abstract
Hey Everybody,

I'm sick with the people who say "Evanescence aren't christians" Every single time I've seen them they thanked God for everything he has done for them. Have you even listened to the CD? On some of their songs the will bring up God and how he knows the way. You know what? They might not always make the right choises but who does? they might not be a "christian" band, but you know what? they will at least put that in their lyrics. i think that if the were so "anti christian" they wouldn't do that. they are awsome, their lyrics are good, they have a great band, their lead singer is amazing. They are reaching out beyond the christian boundries. They rock

lauren

Posted on 01-03-2004 by Art
They are showing everybody a terrible example of Christianity. That's all they are doing.

Not that I don't like their music. I do.

Posted on 01-12-2005 by -[R]-ChurchPunk
I love this CD... Totally awesome sound..

Posted on 01-12-2005 by again alone
Ev sucks. I liked them until I bought their 'Anywhere but Home' cd/dvd. Now I hate them.

Posted on 01-12-2005 by beau99
[QUOTE=again alone]Ev sucks. I liked them until I bought their 'Anywhere but Home' cd/dvd. Now I hate them.[/QUOTE]

What was wrong with Anywhere But Home?

I absolutely loved it, especially their cover of Thoughtless.

Posted on 01-13-2004 by GodHatesMe
This is by far my favorite cd of forever. If you people who stop putting the Christian label on every band that uses god and religion in their music, It'd be nice. If you would note the fact they pulled their album out of Christian stores and they have repeatedly said they aren't a Christian band. Just because god is mentioned in two fo their songs doesn't mean that they are Christian. They write about life. Part of life is religion. The main Christian member left the band. This album shouldn't be on this website. Maybe you should research your artists before labeling.
-Damned4Ever

Posted on 01-13-2004 by Choppa™
uh... nice post...

This site isn't strictly for reviewing Christian music and Christian bands. As you can see with a quick glance through the site, CGR also reviews albums by The Juliana Theory... a band that has never confessed Jesus Christ as their savior in their music. But they do have a Christian theme to much of their music, just like Evanescence. That's why they're here.

Posted on 01-13-2005 by again alone
I don't buy and listen to music with the f-word or the a-word in it. I was not aware that I was buying a CD with the f-word in it. There was no 'parental warning' sticker on the CD.

Posted on 01-13-2005 by beau99
[QUOTE=again alone]I don't buy and listen to music with the f-word or the a-word in it. I was not aware that I was buying a CD with the f-word in it. There was no 'parental warning' sticker on the CD.[/QUOTE]

Both words were used in context.

That's why there's no label on the disc. You can barely hear those words anyway.

Also, I wasn't aware that ass was a bad word.

Posted on 01-13-2005 by again alone
In context??? Whatever do you mean? The definition for f**k is: ' slang terms for sexual intercourse '. Look at the lyrics below. Is that using 'f**k' in context?

[I]Why are you trying to make fun of me? You think it's funny what the f**k you think it's doing to me?
You take your turn lashing out at me
I want you crying with your dirty ass in front of me...

[/I]

Posted on 01-13-2005 by Mattlock
Actually, the real meaning of it is to sow seeds. (Or so I've heard...) Or that it's messed up.

If the only meaning is a slang term for sexual intercourse, then this is what the song is saying:

Why are you trying to make fun of me? You think it's funny what the sexual intercourse you it's doing to me?

It doesn't make sense. In fact, the original version doesn't make sense. The way they are using it means screwed or messed up.

Posted on 01-13-2005 by again alone
According to my Merriam-Webster dictionary, 12th edition, 'f**k' is a word from the 1600s that means 'the copulating of cows'.

Posted on 01-15-2005 by beau99
[QUOTE=again alone]In context??? Whatever do you mean? The definition for f**k is: ' slang terms for sexual intercourse '. Look at the lyrics below. Is that using 'f**k' in context?

[I]Why are you trying to make fun of me? You think it's funny what the f**k you think it's doing to me?
You take your turn lashing out at me
I want you crying with your dirty ass in front of me...

[/I][/QUOTE]

And I have no problem with that.

Posted on 01-15-2005 by again alone
That's your business. But you did present a pretty lousy argument as to why you say it is OK to listen to that.

Posted on 01-16-2004 by Unregisted
hi! first of all, excuse me for my poor english, i'm from Spain and i've a poor english...
Well... I don't think than Evanescence are a christian band... yes, they speak of god, and their lyrics doesn't speak of the rock topics (sex, drugs,...) But not only is a christian rock band a band who speaks of god or jesus... There are bands that you don't think that they're christians, but they speak of some christian topics... there are some exemples, like Live, K's choice, Zwan, Silverchair or Smashing Pumpkins... They're interested of god... they're christians, but they're not a christian band...
ahmmm... i hope that you answer to me... i like to read your messages... if you want something you can write to me, my mail is [email]mistykmallorca@yahoo.es[/email]

Posted on 01-16-2004 by Sean
[QUOTE=harry potter]hi! first of all, excuse me for my poor english, i'm from Spain and i've a poor english... [/quote]

Your english is much much better than most young teenagers english. I can't figure what they're saying most of the time.


[quote] There are bands that you don't think that they're christians, but they speak of some christian topics... there are some exemples, like Live, K's choice, Zwan, Silverchair or Smashing Pumpkins... They're interested of god... they're christians, but they're not a christian band...[/QUOTE]
Ummmm as far as I know none of those bands have Christian members. I know the Billy Corgan isn't a Christian and I the doubt the rest are. The guys in LIve are very spiritual but not actually Christians. I've never heard it said that members of K's Choice or Silverchair are Christians.

Posted on 01-16-2004 by Thespia
Amy Lee (from what I hear from people who DO know) is not a woman of Prov. 31 morals. I'm saying this in the nicest way possible. I highly doubt she is a Christian. (But the Lord my surprise us yet).

Posted on 01-16-2004 by Jas de F
[QUOTE=Thespia]Amy Lee (from what I hear from people who DO know) is not a woman of Prov. 31 morals. I'm saying this in the nicest way possible. I highly doubt she is a Christian. (But the Lord my surprise us yet).[/QUOTE]

I listen to the band because I believe their music has value, not because one or two or however many of the band members may profess some form of "Christianity."

However...

Would you care to elaborate? In what way is Lee not a Prov. 31 woman?

Posted on 01-16-2004 by Thespia
I can't eleborate. Trust me.

Posted on 01-16-2004 by Art
[size=5][color=red]Notice to all:[/color][/size]

This is NOT a thread on the spirtuality or Christianity of Evanescence. This is a thread for reviewing the CD, Fallen. Any further off topic posts will be deleted. Please take the talk about their Christianity or lack thereof to the designated thread in their forum. Thank you.

Posted on 01-16-2005 by supahfly23
i don't think there is ever really a correct context to use the f-word, andi am very disappointed that they chose to use it in thier song, as well as in many interviews.

From what i've heard of Evanescence, they write pretty good music, i like some of the piano work they do, but lyrically, while many find thier music moving, i don't find it extremely special. Yes, they do have a female singer, that's cool, but not intirely unique either.

i gave it a 6.

Posted on 01-16-2005 by beau99
[QUOTE=supahfly23]i don't think there is ever really a correct context to use the f-word, andi am very disappointed that they chose to use it in thier song, as well as in many interviews.
[/QUOTE]

Well, it's not their song. It's Korn's song.

As far as them using the f-word, I believe in freedom of speech.

Posted on 01-18-2005 by Chris
and continuing with freedom of speech, people have the freedom to disapprove of their use of such words. I personally have no quarrel with it. Heck, I grew up with that language. But I wouldn't tell someone else to just accept it and get over it and listen to it just because I have no problem with it. If you have poblems with the word then by all means don't listen to the CD or at the very least, the song that contains the word.

Posted on 01-18-2005 by Art
Once again... this thread is ONLY for discussing the CD Fallen. Any further off topic discussion will be deleted.

Posted on 01-19-2004 by GodHatesMe
[QUOTE=yer mom]When I first heard Evanescence's music, it was an MP3 my boyfriend sent to me--Bring Me to Life. After listening to the first chorus, I began crying and knew I had not stumbled onto your average hard rock band. At first, I was shocked by the Christian symbolism in their chart-topper, but then assumed that they are lost individuals, like myself, who find themselves in need of a savior. After listening to Tourniquet and hearing "Christ" and "return to me salvation," I mused that they were Christian at one time and have wandered or walked away from the truth.

It also sounds to me like their recent interviews have been an attempt to sever themselves from a wimpy Christian subculture that wants to draw a hard line between 'Christian' and not. As I see it, all of us--saved sinners and sinners are looking for redemption, immortal love, true life. Evanescence is writing powerful songs about this search and everyone is attracted to it. While I don't find their music worshipful or incredibly uplifting, I feel like it gives vent to the questions that my soul is still screaming.

Evanescence is a band that I would recommend to all people--on either side of the cross. We know that those who seek will find God, so let's pray that Evanescence will continue to ask the hard questions and that they will get the true answers in Truth Himself.

In Christ,
Amerz[/QUOTE]

Evanescence is not a christian band. They talk of religion, but they don't put themselves into that genre. On the Ninntendo FusionTour they did a cover of Smashing Pumpkins "Zero" which includes this lines "emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness and cleanliness is godliness, and god is empty just like me." Is that something a christian band would say?
-Dizzy

Posted on 01-20-2004 by Amanda
[QUOTE=Sean]Given the posters profile and post, I'm under the impression that the poster doesn't like radio-friendly hard rock. Thus believes all those bands are "bad music." I seriously doubt it has anything to do with the spiritual nature of the lyrics. I think the profile said the poster liked Further Seems Forever. This would indicate the person likes "emo." Basically trading one scene for another. Doesn't make much sense to me why one would be good music and the other bad music.[/QUOTE]

Hey, I'm an emo girl (most of my favorite bands are on independent labels, if that tells you anything), and I *love* Evanescence, so I have absolutely no idea what this poster's deal is. Ah, well, to each his/her own.

Posted on 01-22-2004 by WonL1fe
I do no tmean to burst the bubbles of anyone here, but Evanessance is not Christian... during an interview, one of the band members said,

"Surprisingly, we did alot better with christian audiences than with the secular... That's F*****g crazy!"

So, um , yeah....

Posted on 01-22-2004 by Jonular
[QUOTE=WonL1fe]*edited out by Art. I don't want this garbage being spread*[/QUOTE]
Exactly what does the following mean to you?

[QUOTE=Art]This is NOT a thread on the spirtuality or Christianity of Evanescence. This is a thread for reviewing the CD, Fallen. Any further off topic posts will be deleted. Please take the talk about their Christianity or lack thereof to the designated thread in their forum. Thank you.[/QUOTE]

~Jon

*edit by art - Thanks Jon.

Posted on 01-23-2004 by WonL1fe
[QUOTE=SystemOfAJon]Exactly what does the following mean to you?


~Jon

*edit by art - Thanks Jon.[/QUOTE]

How does that constitute as garbage? It was the truth!! and i did not see that until after i had posted it... i was in a hurry and at school... Besides, that was the answer to the debate that was being had... What better source to end a debate than to go straight to the source... i did not mean to start trouble, so for that i am sorry...
In Him
~Andy

Posted on 01-23-2004 by Jonular
[QUOTE=WonL1fe]How does that constitute as garbage? It was the truth!! and i did not see that until after i had posted it... i was in a hurry and at school... Besides, that was the answer to the debate that was being had... What better source to end a debate than to go straight to the source... i did not mean to start trouble, so for that i am sorry...
In Him
~Andy[/QUOTE]
Garbage is Art and my own opinion of a sheltered Christianity perspective. The truth? Sounds like I could start a debate. Odd, there's already a thread for the debates.

Sounds like another spliteroo, Art.

~Jon

Posted on 01-23-2004 by Art
[QUOTE=WonL1fe]How does that constitute as garbage? It was the truth!! and i did not see that until after i had posted it... i was in a hurry and at school... Besides, that was the answer to the debate that was being had... What better source to end a debate than to go straight to the source... i did not mean to start trouble, so for that i am sorry...
In Him
~Andy[/QUOTE]
I wasn't calling your content garbage. I only called the post, which was in this thread when it wasn't supposed to be, garbage. No offense meant.

Posted on 01-23-2004 by yoshi139
When i first heard the song "bring me to life", i thought, wow that's a really good song, and i loved it. Then i heard the rest of their CD... I think they are a good band with lots of talent, but most of their songs are a little too "mellow" for my liking. Still i think this is a pretty good CD and i recommend it to anyone who likes more mellow stuff.

Posted on 01-24-2004 by Choppa™
Thought I'd post something in here that actually falls under what this thread is about. I enjoy the music video/radio version of "My Immortal" a lot more than the album version. The guitars and drums that come in at the end really gives it an exclamation point. Plus it's fun to air-drum to.

Posted on 03-01-2004 by Jimvee
As to all this business about Eva being christians or not.....does it really matter? It's not a sin to listen to non-christian music, in fact it can even be refreshing at times. Just take it for what it is, a great modern rock cd.

Posted on 03-30-2004 by hammer07
*edit by Art - Please, this is a thread to review the CD. We have already been through this. If you want to talk about the band's spirituality, this is not the place.*

Posted on 04-13-2003 by Unregisted
I LVOE EVANESCENCE! they are really good. i had first heard of them from the daredevil soundtrack. i didn't realize they were christian until later, and i was kinda skeptical at first too... but i've read interviews and stuff where they profess to be christians and while some of their lyrics don't talk about God, others do.. they don't as much as i would if it were me, but you can't judge by that.....

Posted on 04-25-2005 by Unregisted
u weak christians
happy death day to you
Anton LaVey
Aleister Crowley
chocolate starfish
Michael Jackson loves the little children
Ozzy Osbourne
Micheal Moore
Marilyn Manson
neural networks
backmasking
....the foundation of Evanescence's music

Posted on 04-26-2003 by Kori
BEST CD! BEST BAND!
Get it. It kicks. I rate it 10.
Best song(s) = My Last Breath, Imaginary, Going Under :yep:
My Immortal is a good soft song. eerily beautiful. :yep:

Posted on 04-27-2004 by SetAblaze21
Can I get a little love around here? Leave the hatin to the haters and be a little bit more postitive kids :) I happen to love this band, though i think most of it is Amy Lee's vocals. You could probably put her with a car engine running and a banjo being played by an elephant and her music would still sound gorgeous. Main point, Fallen is one of the best modern rock albums ive heard in a while, and furthermore, I feel like I can pull a christian message out of most of the music. Not only is Toruniquet God-centered, but take a listen to "Taking over Me" and think about your own relationship with God. Just a little challenge :)

In His Peace

Posted on 04-27-2004 by Ayria
i like evanescence too;) i think yes, it can be called depressing, so if you're already sad or don't like sad music, don't listen to it, but basically i love the soundings of the songs.

Posted on 04-28-2003 by Unregisted
When I first heard Evanescence's music, it was an MP3 my boyfriend sent to me--Bring Me to Life. After listening to the first chorus, I began crying and knew I had not stumbled onto your average hard rock band. At first, I was shocked by the Christian symbolism in their chart-topper, but then assumed that they are lost individuals, like myself, who find themselves in need of a savior. After listening to Tourniquet and hearing "Christ" and "return to me salvation," I mused that they were Christian at one time and have wandered or walked away from the truth.

It also sounds to me like their recent interviews have been an attempt to sever themselves from a wimpy Christian subculture that wants to draw a hard line between 'Christian' and not. As I see it, all of us--saved sinners and sinners are looking for redemption, immortal love, true life. Evanescence is writing powerful songs about this search and everyone is attracted to it. While I don't find their music worshipful or incredibly uplifting, I feel like it gives vent to the questions that my soul is still screaming.

Evanescence is a band that I would recommend to all people--on either side of the cross. We know that those who seek will find God, so let's pray that Evanescence will continue to ask the hard questions and that they will get the true answers in Truth Himself.

In Christ,
Amerz

Posted on 04-28-2003 by Unregisted
The last post said something interesting - that "While I don't find their music worshipful or incredibly uplifting, I feel like it gives vent to the questions that my soul is still screaming". This is interesting because the mood among American Christians is that somehow needs to be explicitly worshipful in order for it to be uplifting - meaning people are defining worship and uplifting somewhat narrowly. I find the song "Bring me to life" very uplifting, because for me it describes a period in my life where I asked some of these questions and believed some of these same things:
"Bound at every limb by my shackles of fear
Sealed with lies through so many tears
Lost from within, pursuing the end
I fight for the chance to be lied to again

You will never be strong enough
You will never be good enough
You were never conceived in love
You will not rise above"

and also the point at which I realized my need for a savior - that he was in the middle of my aweful situation -

"how can you see into my eyes like open doors
leading you down into my core
where I’ve become so numb without a soul my spirit sleeping somewhere cold
until you find it there and lead it back home..."

These aren't necessarily edifying in the classical (stunted) development of the word, but they are an intense reminder for me of A) what the world asks, and B) what ever believer has had to grapple with (assuming faith has been tested) and what I had to grapple with during a very painful time in my life.
The edifying element that I assert is first found in their solution to the dilemna within several of their songs:

"frozen inside without your touch without your love darling only you are the life among the dead"

And secondly, the part that is edifying is the reminder that we came from the place of lies - we, in some sense or another, made the realizations semi-alluded to in Bring me to Life. This is edifying because it reminds us of the massive change we have experienced, the amazing work of grace on our lives - the reality and testimony of which we in turn can bring to the world.

SC

Posted on 04-28-2003 by Coyote_Spirit
<----- Agrees with the last two posts.

Posted on 04-30-2003 by meatfinger
I gave it an eight. One demerit for crappy lyrics, one demerit for not sounding pretty repetetive. But it's a very enjoyable disc.

Posted on 04-30-2004 by Jimvee
Great cd. Awesome vocals, nice crunchy guitars, some cool string and piano stuffage, and deep lyrics. The only I don't like is the choir that's on some of the tracks. Sound kinda corny I think.

Posted on 04-30-2005 by DKelly
The music is very catchy, especially "Bring Me to Life".

Posted on 06-02-2003 by Sean
I split the faith debate off and sent it over to the Evanscence forum. This thread is for reviews, not discussion or debate.

Posted on 06-04-2003 by anathema
i give it a 2.
pretty recycled and unoriginal, too much so for my taste. Not to mention the music bieng watered down for the sake of 'top 40 radio'.
*anathema*

Posted on 06-04-2004 by mtcatch
I loved this CD. The only problem that I have is that there are 2 My Immortal tracks, the first being the more "mellow" version. Quite fankly, it stinks, and I can't even stand to listen to it. mainly because her vocals are just off. I don't know if she sang it, then they put in the music, or what, but the tone it terrible. I don't know why they didn't just use the second version (which is the one they like to put on the radio). Otherwise, this is a great CD whether they are "Christians" or not. It's uplifting, yet still has that edge.

Posted on 06-15-2003 by Enjoi_Lyfe
I rate it a 9. I bought it today and listened to it 2 or 3 times through on the way home from Texarkana. For my Stand out tracks are My Immortal, Tourniquet, and Whisper...I really enjoy the guitar on Imaginary! I personally enjoy Paul McCoy on Bring Me To Life. They have a sweet blend together and I enjoy the lyrics. On some of the songs the lyrics are a bit lacking but the guitar riffs make up for it! Buy it whenever you have some spare cash!

Posted on 06-16-2003 by Unregisted
Evanescence is not a christian band,
they decided not to be labelled as a christian band .THEY ARE THE MOST SHAMEFUL BAND OF THE WHOLE WORLD.
They say they don't want to be associated with christian music at all. I saw an interview they made and they and they swore a lot and talked like any other secular band.
ChristianRock.net, a christian radio on the internet, was asked to take out the song 'bring me to life' out of the playlist because the band asked to. I'm proud it's not christianand that,as a christian, I am not associated with such music, because it really sucks.

Posted on 06-16-2003 by Jonular
Regardless of their Christianity, which would be shallow, their music is another nu-metal band. But they have a female vocalist, a female with a very very strong voice. That is what makes Eva unique.

They get a 5. Cool music, lousy interviews.

~Jon

Posted on 07-01-2004 by beau99
Good CD by a good band, but "Origin" is a better work than this.

Posted on 07-09-2003 by bossman
it's just sad that they seem to have turned their backs on christianity, saying "I don't know why we were in those *beeping* christians stores in the first place." sad...

Posted on 07-19-2004 by Gecko of Doom
[QUOTE=Choppa™]Thought I'd post something in here that actually falls under what this thread is about. I enjoy the music video/radio version of "My Immortal" a lot more than the album version. The guitars and drums that come in at the end really gives it an exclamation point. Plus it's fun to air-drum to.[/QUOTE]
The version of "My Immortal" with guitars/drums is on the CD. Track 12.

Now for my opinions:

Is Evanescence a "Christian band": No

Is their music good: Yes

I gave it an 8. They can't hold a candle to The Beatles. But then again, who can? :D

Posted on 07-19-2004 by beau99
[QUOTE=Gecko of Doom]The version of "My Immortal" with guitars/drums is on the CD. Track 12.

[/QUOTE]

Not if you bought the album before this year.

Posted on 07-19-2004 by beau99
[QUOTE=Gecko of Doom]The version of "My Immortal" with guitars/drums is on the CD. Track 12.

[/QUOTE]

Not if you bought the album before this year.

Posted on 07-20-2004 by Gecko of Doom
[QUOTE=beau99]Not if you bought the album before this year.[/QUOTE]
Oh. Ok. I just bought the album last week... finally decided to actually spend some money. Or rather, actually had some money to spend! :D

Posted on 08-15-2003 by Jacob_Duhm
First off, I don't consider Evanescence a "christian band." While some of the lyrics have what appear to be Christian themes, there are little undertones here and there that make me think they're not a "unoffically christian" band, like Lifehouse.
Aside from this content aspect, "Fallen" represets, I think, an incredibly well-made modern rock album. Who ever Amy Lee's voice coach was, he deserves a medal! The etheal, dark mood of the music gives it an intense edge that appeals to me, and as I mentioned before, Amy Lee has a great voice. High notes or low notes, she can hit them all without any hint of strain or cracking.
Standout tracks: "Everybody's Fool" "Hello" "Haunted" and, of course, "Bring Me To Life," which sparked my interest in the album.
Think Hard Think Well
Jacob

Posted on 08-25-2004 by Unregisted
[QUOTE=Jimvee]As to all this business about Eva being christians or not.....does it really matter? It's not a sin to listen to non-christian music, in fact it can even be refreshing at times. Just take it for what it is, a great modern rock cd.[/QUOTE]


Evanescence is not a christain band they do not sing all about god about 1 or two of them have the words god in it but dont speak of god soo therefore meaning that they arnt christain and me i am an emo girl if your wondering ha!

Posted on 08-26-2003 by Unregisted
I think we're missing something here. I saw Ingmar Bergman's "Seventh Seal" when I was fifteen, and it was waaay cool. In the midst of a cold Sweden of the Middle Ages swept by plague and doubt in the Grace of the Lord, this simple Christian minstrel couple and their baby end up being the only survivors of a meeting with Death. I think that yeah, that this is a Christian movie. Yet, it deals with darker themes that some more straitlaced evangelicals would have trouble with.

I feel the same way about Evanescence. They may have distanced themselves from Christianity, but who says the Lord may not use the lyrics of some of their songs to bring some people to the realisation that there is emptiness in one's life without the saving power of Christ within us? Particularly "Tourniquet," which sounds explicitly Christian to me. It's one of the best pro-life/anti-suicide songs I've ever come across!

Grace!

Tonia R.

Posted on 08-26-2004 by .....
Evanescence chose not to be in the Christian genre because they don't want to be pigeonholed (categorized). The band was actually formed in a Youth Praise and Worship camp and each one of the members are still very much devoted to Christ.
One of the former member of Evanescence, named David Hodges, is starting a band of his own (a Christian Band) and he's VERY talented and he has strong faith.

[url]www.notachristianband.com[/url]
^ You can read some of the "hate" mails this site received just because they decided to name it "Not a Christian Band". Read it so you may understand more.

And on David, you can read about him here: [url]www.notachristianband.com/david[/url] In his interview, he shows great faith in God that amazes me.

Sorry if this has been posted before, I have no time to read the whole thread...

Posted on 09-10-2005 by Andrew
I love this band. I don't care about the debate. I love this album.

8.

Posted on 09-18-2003 by nickman945236
You say they have distanced themselves from christ? well, maybe they have. But everyone has hard times in their walk with christ. I mean, could any one of us truthfully proclaim that we have never faltered in our faith? Give them a break. Maybe they'll come around.

Posted on 10-11-2003 by Rue
The thing is, I don't think they're pulling themselves away from Christ, I think they're pulling themselves away from that stigma that other people give the Christian faith. Honestly, I don't blame them. I myself have some issues w/ the "Christian" community today but I still love the Lord w/ all that I am. :yep:

Posted on 10-16-2003 by lastplacewinner
this cd is full of the crumby nu-metal that is clogging the radio these days. however, there is one stipulation.....................A GIRL SINGER!!!!!1 oooooooo that makes them soooo original. except not. if given a choice between listening to this album and drinking bleach, hand me the chlorox.

basically if you like bad music like linkin park, creed, and trapt then get this cd.

Posted on 10-16-2003 by Sean
Wow, death over Evanescence. What exactly is good music to you?

Posted on 10-16-2003 by nickman945236
[QUOTE=lastplacewinner]
basically if you like bad music like linkin park, creed, and trapt then get this cd.[/QUOTE]
I love those artists!
Nickman

P.S. *passes bleach bottle*

Posted on 10-18-2004 by Unregisted
Nossa tá uma merda esse seu site, não dá nem pra ouvir música... contine assim essa POHHAA vai longe^^ thau!! Bye bye XD

Posted on 10-18-2004 by DreamChaser
Heya,

I love the part in that notachristianband.com site which states: "Evanescence is one of the greatest bands in rock music today!"...

Hahahaha!

Yeah, it's funny. Really, it is.

Posted on 10-19-2003 by TXan rockbabe19
now wait just a minute fellows...

"bad music like linkin park, creed, and trapt"? are we speaking as in their music or Christian relativeness....b/c in the relativesness way, yes i can see how they are bad, but their music-well for creed at least-is not all that bad...creed actually, to me, has an uplifting kinda spiritual meaning in the lyrics...as for linkin park and trapt...they arent well bound towards being sold in Christian stores, but their music is alright.

does anyone agree or am i once again a loner?

as for Evanescence: their album isnt very christian and they seem not to be that religious either, but come on these people seem like they have been going through some rough times..though their song "Tourniquet" does seem to have a God related point and reminds me of myself..most of their lyrics are morbid and dark..

Posted on 10-19-2003 by Sean
[QUOTE=TXan rockbabe19]now wait just a minute fellows...

"bad music like linkin park, creed, and trapt"? are we speaking as in their music or Christian relativeness....b/c in the relativesness way, yes i can see how they are bad, but their music-well for creed at least-is not all that bad...creed actually, to me, has an uplifting kinda spiritual meaning in the lyrics...as for linkin park and trapt...they arent well bound towards being sold in Christian stores, but their music is alright.
[/QUOTE]

Given the posters profile and post, I'm under the impression that the poster doesn't like radio-friendly hard rock. Thus believes all those bands are "bad music." I seriously doubt it has anything to do with the spiritual nature of the lyrics. I think the profile said the poster liked Further Seems Forever. This would indicate the person likes "emo." Basically trading one scene for another. Doesn't make much sense to me why one would be good music and the other bad music.

Posted on 10-20-2004 by JaytheK
I say just forget the whole [i]is Evanescence a Christian band or not[/i] debate and enjoy their music. I mean, Amy Lee's voice is just.......incredible. And it is so unique in that style of music. Plus, she's kinda hot.........:D That's is sooooo not a reason for likeing their cd, though. Anyways, I gave it a 9. An excellent cd.

John

Posted on 10-20-2004 by natedawg5280
[QUOTE=johnkess]I say just forget the whole [i]is Evanescence a Christian band or not[/i] debate and enjoy their music. I mean, Amy Lee's voice is just.......incredible. And it is so unique in that style of music. Plus, she's kinda hot.........:D That's is sooooo not a reason for likeing their cd,[/QUOTE]
lol yeah she is hot + GREAT voice! CD kicks major butt. Buy it.. can't wait for a new CD!

Posted on 10-26-2003 by lastplacewinner
basic facs. i'm an elitist, so that give me the power of telling people that their music sucks, and jock the crap out of mine. i think further is the most main stream band i listen to.

Posted on 11-01-2004 by summergirl_8806
I absolutely love this cd!!!!! (unfortunatly i've misplaced it....well maybe it wasn't me...but someone in my family...)
lol yeah it is probably one of my fav's of all the cd i have

Posted on 12-05-2003 by Sapphy
My Feelings on this album are that it's great for the days when you are angry, or sad or endlessly seeking, because it reminds you that being a christian, you're never alone, and other people have felt the way you have felt too. Hello always brings a teear to my eye and I like that in a song. And scarily it's great for just chinning to with your bf and/or mates, and good party music. 8 for a good alrounder

Posted on 12-05-2003 by Sean
[QUOTE=lastplacewinner]basic facs. i'm an elitist, so that give me the power of telling people that their music sucks, and jock the crap out of mine. i think further is the most main stream band i listen to.[/QUOTE]

Its difficult to be taken seriously as an elitist when you have bad spelling and grammar. However, you get bonus points for saying "jock the crap out of mine." I don't have a clue what that means, but it entertained me.

Posted on 12-05-2003 by Jeffrey
[QUOTE=lastplacewinner]basic facs. i'm an elitist, so that give me the power of telling people that their music sucks, and jock the crap out of mine. i think further is the most main stream band i listen to.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I bet I like more elitist stuff than you do. I love the Mountain Goats, Embrace, and Big Black. And I think that Evanescence, while not the saviors of rock and roll, have an interesting twist.

Don't be afraid to like things for their own sake, and not the culture you associate with it.

Posted on 12-15-2004 by Kutless Fan
i like this band a lot. i only wish some people would actually listen to music before judging it. i give this cd two thumbs up.

--matt

Posted on 12-19-2003 by sheep
i think they're rockin... never heard anything like them before. they pull at my heartstrings. they've obviously been struggling with their faith, but heaven forbid we condemn them to music hell for it! pray for them! listen to their lyrics and see what's happening in their lives. it's good music if you ask me... that hard rock with the piano and captivating voice that carries a mystic tune unlike the rock bands that only know how to yell. that's passion folks.

Posted on 12-28-2004 by chemical_girl
I gave this cd a 9. One demerit for sounding Christian and not being Christian. But I still love this cd!

Posted on 12-28-2004 by Signing&Singing
me too! the peeps in az went head over heels for it and i liked it a lot but yah the whole we're Christian/no we're not thing didn't sit well with me.

Posted on 12-28-2004 by Mattlock
[QUOTE=chemical_girl]I gave this cd a 9. One demerit for sounding Christian and not being Christian. But I still love this cd![/QUOTE]
What? That's not a very good reason at all...

Posted on 12-28-2004 by chemical_girl
[QUOTE=Mattlock]What? That's not a very good reason at all...[/QUOTE]
for me it is. :)

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Andrew
[QUOTE=Mattlock]What? That's not a very good reason at all...[/QUOTE]
Please elucidate on this claim. Really.

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Mattlock
That doesn't affect what you think of the music. Well, it shouldn't. If I had a CD, and loved it, I'd give it a ten even if I completley disagreed with what the band says.

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Andrew
[QUOTE=Mattlock]That doesn't affect what you think of the music. Well, it shouldn't. If I had a CD, and loved it, I'd give it a ten even if I completley disagreed with what the band says.[/QUOTE]
And this would make you incredibly ignorant. ;)

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Mattlock
So, I'm ignorant because I think what the band members say shouldn't affect how one rates a CD?

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Andrew
[QUOTE=Mattlock]So, I'm ignorant because I think what the band members say shouldn't affect how one rates a CD?[/QUOTE]
Correct.

A band makes a CD. The CD belongs to THE BAND. Anything that the band says is directly related to the CD. It is THEIR CD. It would be like me being a total jackass in the Theology and Apologetics forum, constantly insulting people, and preaching damnable heresies, and then I post once in CPF, and you rate me as hilarious because of one post. That doesn't even make sense. Band members, and their CDs, are accountable to the band members themselves.

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Mattlock
I see where you're coming from, and I understand. [size=1]You follow what Focus on the Family says[/size].

You may think less of the BAND, but not the CD. If you choose not to listen to the CD, then that's fine. But you still like their music nonetheless.

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Andrew
[QUOTE]You follow what Focus on the Family says. [/QUOTE]First off, I don't. Secondly, even if they do say the same thing, this thought is correct. Thirdly, turning a source of knoweldge off because they are wrong sometimes is a recipe for disaster. [QUOTE]You may think less of the BAND, but not the CD. If you choose not to listen to the CD, then that's fine. But you still like their music nonetheless.[/QUOTE]That's just ridiculous. I don't have sex because I am not married. Having sex would be very pleasurable, though. It would be WRONG for me to have sex before I am married. I would like having sex, but it would be wrong.

Posted on 12-29-2004 by DreamChaser
Heya,

I don't like the CD. I wouldn't rate it bad because I don't like the band, however. I'd rate it bad simply because IT'S A BAD CD.

I have no problem with people loving a CD but not a band. Same as you can like a painting but not the artist. It's a folly to rate a CD based on the band - cause in that case, you're RATING THE BAND, instead of RATING THE ALBLUM.

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Andrew
A band is inherently connected to an album, as is an artist with a painting.

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Mattlock
[QUOTE=Andrew]First off, I don't. Secondly, even if they do say the same thing, this thought is correct. Thirdly, turning a source of knoweldge off because they are wrong sometimes is a recipe for disaster.[/quote]
That was a joke. ;)
[quote]That's just ridiculous. I don't have sex because I am not married. Having sex would be very pleasurable, though. It would be WRONG for me to have sex before I am married. I would like having sex, but it would be wrong.[/QUOTE]
What's your point?

Posted on 12-29-2004 by jump4joy07
Ok with the whole painting thing. Would you rate a painting as crap if you didn't like the painter? Even if you liked the painting? So therefore you are rating the painting based on your thoughts of the painter, and your rating is biased.So you are rating the painter, not the painting.

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Mattlock
[QUOTE=jump4joy07]Ok with the whole painting thing. Would you rate a painting as crap if you didn't like the painter? Even if you liked the painting? So therefore you are rating the painting based on your thoughts of the painter, and your rating is biased.So you are rating the painter, not the painting.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.

Andrew, if you did act like a jackass in Theology, but told a funny joke in CPF, am I not allowed to laugh at your joke and say you're funny, even though I think you are quiet rude at the same time?

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Dancer3
They're Christian????!!!!!!! I had no clue. I always thought they were goth... so I quit listening. But, wow. that's cool. I guess that just goes to show, don't judge an album by it's cover. Thanxs for settin' me straight.

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Mattlock
Yeah, if your Gothic you can't be Christian. What's with all these Gothic Christians anyways? It's an oxymoron!

Posted on 12-29-2004 by Unregisted
skillet practicaly shows us that goth people can be christains...or they show us that not everyone that looks goth and kind of acts goth is a goth...which is what i like more.

I hear the drummer is definitely not a christian and im very sure the guitarist is'nt a christian also (after seeing what he called his distortion settings and what he said about the amp he uses on line6.com) i dont know who the writer of the songs are (i just borrowed the cd) but im guessing that he / she is a christian and maybe the basser and pianist are also....i dont know much about this band but the lyrics are very christian like (except the line "raping me" on haunted....it kind of confuses me lol) i think there a half-chrisitan band. it'll be interesting to see what direction they go in the future.

Posted on 12-30-2004 by jump4joy07
ok.. not to change the subject.... but i really don't get the point behind labeling someone "gothic". Because gothic in its true meaning has nothing to do with how a person looks. Just wondering.the whole labeling this person this and that person something else really bugs me. i dunno. just a thought! :)

Posted on 12-30-2004 by chemical_girl
[QUOTE=Andrew]A band is inherently connected to an album, as is an artist with a painting.[/QUOTE]
dude. I started a debate. HAHAHA okay. One the terms you guys have been arguing about.

I give the actual cd a 10
The band I give a 7.

Happy now?

Posted on 12-30-2004 by chemical_girl
[QUOTE=Mattlock]Yeah, if your Gothic you can't be Christian. What's with all these Gothic Christians anyways? It's an oxymoron![/QUOTE]
You are ignorant. I am gothic and a very strong Christian. I was adopted anr raised by Pastors. And no. I'm not the typical rebellious pastors kid. I don't like the strictness of their rules. But don't all teenagers?

Okay back on subject. I give the cd a ten.

*edited* sorry mattlock for calling you ignorant. But don't judge before you know people. Get to know some Christian goths. I think you will be presently suprised.

Posted on 12-31-2004 by Mattlock
You are ignorant. I am sarcastic. I was bore to stong Christian parents. No, I'm not the most sarcastic kid you'll ever meet.

Sorry Chemical_girl for calling you ingnorant, but before you reply to my posts, learn what sarcasm is.

Posted on 12-31-2004 by Opie
[QUOTE=Mattlock]You are ignorant. I am sarcastic. I was bore to stong Christian parents. No, I'm not the most sarcastic kid you'll ever meet.

Sorry Chemical_girl for calling you ingnorant, but before you reply to my posts, learn what sarcasm is.[/QUOTE]

hahahahaha :lol: no wait :rofl:

Posted on 12-31-2004 by chemical_girl
[QUOTE=Mattlock]You are ignorant. I am sarcastic. I was bore to stong Christian parents. No, I'm not the most sarcastic kid you'll ever meet.

Sorry Chemical_girl for calling you ingnorant, but before you reply to my posts, learn what sarcasm is.[/QUOTE]
that was sarcasm? hahahaha what is your version of sarcasm? That sounded like you where agreeing. Argh n/m. I don't want to argue. sorry. Oh, Whatever, Nevermind.
Truce?


[QUOTE]Mattlock said:
You are ignorant. I am sarcastic. I was bore to stong Christian parents. No, I'm not the most sarcastic kid you'll ever meet.

Sorry Chemical_girl for calling you ingnorant, but before you reply to my posts, learn what sarcasm is.




hahahahaha :lol: no wait :rofl: [/QUOTE]

Aren't you supposed to be emo? Aren't emo people supposed to be sad?

Posted on 12-31-2004 by Andrew
After thinking about this for a while... Hmm. Okay, I retract my initial argument. The original poster, when she said that she didn't like them, I took her to mean that she didn't like them because they sold themselves as Christians, but aren't. In which case, I would view it like this:

It would be like buying a Renaissance painting off of eBay. The advertisement said it was a Renaissance era painting. You buy this painting, and when it gets to your house, and you open it and see it for the first time, it is morden art. You would have a right to be mad, even if you considered it good modern art.

Posted on 12-31-2004 by Mattlock
Emo? :lol: Sure...

I told you Andrew. ;)

Posted on 12-31-2004 by Andrew
Told me what? Haha. I just refuted your original post. I just used a different method. ;)


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