| I have a 20" no name thin ride with four rivets. The wieght of the rivets and the number is what will make the difference. Four is nice because it adds just a little sizzle to the sound. I'll probably add more, just to make the cymbal feel different. The effect really works best on light cymbals, since they move more. I have seen some players with riveted crashes, and that is an interesting sound. If you don't want to do it yourself, I think Zildjian will do it to any new cymbal they sell.
Lee
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