03-01-2005, 08:28 AM
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#16 | | A dreamer of pictures
Joined: Dec 2001 Location: Aways west of Sugar Mountain Posts: 4,180
| I'm not going to comment on Jeff's sexual prefrances, I'll leave it to someone else. However God is a totaly masculine figure in ever aspect of the bible. |
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03-01-2005, 08:42 AM
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#17 | | ...anybody want a neaput?
Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,489
| Hi Jeff,
Do you consider homosexuality to be a sin? I mean, is this something you're struggling with, spiritually speaking, or are you content to engage in homosexual relationships?
(Sorry if these seem like basic questions -- I don't know you very well, so I'm just trying to get an idea of your perspective.) |
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03-01-2005, 08:45 AM
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#18 | | Registered User
Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Springdale, AR Posts: 1,404
| I think that being bisexual is like saying you and borderline pregnant. Either you are homosexual or straight. The people who are playing with boths sides are just fighting their natural tendentency to be one or the other.
Look you are young and you are basing your sexual identity on one little crush on your friend. You know many women develop strong feeling including love for their friends, but we do not consider ourselves to be bi sexual. I think you need to stop and try to look at your feelings and truely decide what is going on.
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03-01-2005, 09:13 AM
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#19 | | so much
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 21,067
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Originally Posted by Gracie Love I think that being bisexual is like saying you and borderline pregnant. Either you are homosexual or straight. The people who are playing with boths sides are just fighting their natural tendentency to be one or the other. | Why can't there be a natural tendency to be bi-sexual if there can be a natural tendency to be heterosexual and a natural tendency to be homosexual?
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(b) This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or
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03-01-2005, 09:27 AM
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#20 | | Bulldogge Administrator
Joined: Jun 2001 Location: Beaverton, Or Posts: 37,721
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Originally Posted by Nate Why can't there be a natural tendency to be bi-sexual if there can be a natural tendency to be heterosexual and a natural tendency to be homosexual?  |
Natural tendencies must often be curbed. My natural tendency is to violence. i think if I were not held in check by faith, I would make a pretty decent hitman/murderer/smuggler/thief, something of that nature.
It is my natural tendency, but in any moral system, it is evident that it is wrong.
__________________ For this I will be judged.
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03-01-2005, 09:28 AM
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#21 | | so much
Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 21,067
| I know all that, Bill.
I'm not sure how it is relevant to my post, though.
In His love,
Nate
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"(a) Marriage in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman.
(b) This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or
recognize any legal status identical or similar to marriage. Texas Constitution, Article I, Section 32" |
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03-01-2005, 10:15 AM
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#22 | | Bulldogge Administrator
Joined: Jun 2001 Location: Beaverton, Or Posts: 37,721
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Originally Posted by Nate I know all that, Bill.
I'm not sure how it is relevant to my post, though.
In His love,
Nate |
just something for Jeff to think about, Yes he may have a natural tendency, but no it could be completely immoral, even under a non-Christian values set. Just as an example of how natural tendency might be wrong period.
I see natural tendency used as an excuse by a lot of people, as if that is an adequate excuse of immoral behavior.
And yes, I know you know that. Its more of something to be considered.
__________________ For this I will be judged.
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03-01-2005, 01:23 PM
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#23 | | Banned
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,480
| 1. Do I consider homosexuality to be a sin?
No, as I have no reason to do so, or even a definition of "sin" that makes any sense to me.
2. I don't think there's any reason to say that a person can't really be bisexual. I don't think you can be both heterosexual and homosexual at the same time but that doesn't mean that you can't have the potential for both. When you're not with someone of the opposite sex at the moment, you still consider yourself straight because that's what you generally look for. I've always had urges and fantasies, and I just decided that they could be the basis for a relationship when I started exploring my feelings for Wade. So I decided to come out, first to him, and then to a few friends, as an experiment to see what it would be like to be free with it. Of course my social bisexual identity is different from my actual sexual feelings for guys, but the reason that I decided to put this part of my identity out there is to make myself comfortable with those private personal feelings, and get rid of a barrier that I feel between myself and others by being more open and personal and intimate with them, and telling them the truth about myself.And it seems to be working. I'm generally happier now.
3. As far as natural tendencies go, I think Bill's argument is really dumb. Natural tendencies are only ever suppressed for the benefit of fulfilling other, stronger natural tendencies. |
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03-01-2005, 01:32 PM
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#24 | | Registered User
Joined: May 2001 Location: South African in New Zealand Posts: 10,070
| You are talking like someone that doesn't know the Truth or ever want to know it or hear it. |
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03-01-2005, 01:35 PM
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#25 | | Bulldogge Administrator
Joined: Jun 2001 Location: Beaverton, Or Posts: 37,721
| This thread apparently exists for the sole purpose of making sin easier for Jeff according to his last post.
And Jeff, why would I not smuggle for the sake of any other natural instinct? There is none that violates in the least.
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