Am I an adulterer?

Gracie Love · 02-14-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Yojimbo

No...that would be a onetime mistake. The bible is saying that divorce is not possible without infidelity on one partner's part. Therefore, the woman is still considered married, and everytime her new husband has relations with her, that's adultery.

Are you saying that if a man like my husband, is to not fulfill his marital duty because that is sinful? Even though we are married. Like I said I pray everyday that God forgive me for my divorce. But if it is your stance that John and I should not share a marital bed then what about what Paul said?

1 Corinthians 7:3
The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.

Gracie Love · 02-14-2005, 11:03 AM

As far as your defintion of adultery, is it adultery that my ex husband left because he was lusting after another woman and wanted to be free to persue a relationship with her?

Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

My ex husband put us( me and his son) out and divorced me. I did not divorce him and I stated in court that I did not want the divorce.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 02-14-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Yojimbo

Well, OK...isn't that kind of strange linguistic reasoning? What if the Bible said, "It was sinful for those two men to marry," would that mean gay people can marry?

However, the Hosea reference is interesting. Touche.

very big mistake here... Marriage is defined in Genesis , gays cannot meet a biblical definition of marriage even if the staate were to so recognize it.

The passage in question refers to a marriage, which by implication is valid.

DonCamillo · 02-14-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Modlin

Nobody's addressed this yet, but why did your step-daughter show you that verse in the first place? Is she upset that you married her Mom?

She "studied" it in Church, in the morning I think, and showed it to me later that night.
She is not upset with me, she actually loves me more than her Dad.

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I asked the same question to her pastor, and he replied:

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There are three conditions where divorce is accepted in the Christian church:
One, unfaithfulness.
Two, desertion,
Third, abuse.

He said that in this case, the third point applied.

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Does the fact that they that had a civil union and were not believers at the time of their wedding make any difference in the validity to their marriage to the Church?

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 02-14-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DonCamillo

She "studied" it in Church, in the morning I think, and showed it to me later that night.
She is not upset with me, she actually loves me more than her Dad.

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I asked the same question to her pastor, and he replied:

He said that in this case, the third point applied.

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Does the fact that they that had a civil union and were not believers at the time of their wedding make any difference in the validity to their marriage to the Church?

honestly, I have no idea. I would not sweat this because what is done, is done. Biblically your responsibilities are that of a normal marriage.

**Simo** · 02-14-2005, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gracie Love

As far as your defintion of adultery, is it adultery that my ex husband left because he was lusting after another woman and wanted to be free to persue a relationship with her?

Matthew 5:28
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

My ex husband put us( me and his son) out and divorced me. I did not divorce him and I stated in court that I did not want the divorce.

This sounds like abandonment to me, which is a valid reason for divorce!

DonCamillo · 02-14-2005, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

honestly, I have no idea. I would not sweat this because what is done, is done. Biblically your responsibilities are that of a normal marriage.

Thanks for the response Bill. That's what I feel too.
I cannot divorce my wife now, that would make it worse as you say.
I am going to try to love her as Christ loves his Church.

I don't worry about this past now.
I asked God for forgiveness about it, and it is in His hands. There is not much I can do about it anymore, except to ask for God's mercy.
He already gave me His Peace, like a burden that has been taken off of my soul.
It is between God and me, and I believe that he already forgave me.

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I hope this is still in the "spirit" to this thread, I am including the prayer that we - wrote and - made on our wedding day:

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Wedding Prayer

Lord, we come to You today as Your Children,
As Children of God.

Children of God
because everything we have, we owe it to You:
Our lives through our parents, our Love and our Faith.

Children
because we stand so small
in front of Your Overwhelming Love,
Your Delicate Attention
and Your unwaiving Protection and Support.

Children
because we have so much to learn from You,
from our Lord Jesus-Christ
whom we want to emulate and follow in our lives.

Children
because we still have a long way
to grow in Faith, in Spirit and in Love.

Today, our Lord,
our Father who art in Heaven,
we come to you in all humility
and pray that you may cast Your Blessings upon us.

Bless our matrimony,
Bless our new family: (daughter, wife and husband names),
and Bless our home.

Help us make it a house of Happiness,
a house of Joy, a house of Laughter,
a house of Forgiveness, a house of Peace,
a house of Sharing, and a house of Love;
Help us make our house a HOME
where Your Name will be praised
and Your Presence Glorified every day of the year.

As we enter these nuptials, O Lord,
we set aside a place for You in our home and in our hearts.
May you fill them with Your Peace,
Your Love and Your Glory.

We want to commence on this journey with You, O Lord.
Be our Rock in our moments of difficulty,
and our Light in our darkness.
Guide us along our trail. It is going to be a challenging road, but with Your Grace, Your Blessings and Your Providence,
it is going to be a rewarding road,
walking in the footsteps of Jesus-Christ our Lord.

Make our Love grow deeper and stronger along the way.
Make our Love a reflection
of the Love of Christ for his Church,
and a reflection of Your unconditional Love for us.

Thank you for all the Grace
that you have bestowed upon us, O Lord.

Praise be given to You.
We Love You.

I believe that God has blessed our matrimony.

GracieLove, bless you and your family too.

4Glory · 02-16-2005, 02:58 PM

This is a great discussion on a hard issue.

I'm in agreeance with most here, your marrige is legitimate because your wife didn't know God before the devorce and was thus equally yoked with an unbliever, now she is equally yoked with a man of the word. The bible tells us that the circomstances for devorce are
1. death
2. adultery
3. unequally yoked.

Regardless of the reason you devoced your ex husband, the fact that you are now in a covanant with a man and both of you are in covanant with God sanctifies your marrige.