2005 Scripture and Catechism study

goldenchild · 01-01-2005, 11:08 AM

This comes from here, http://www.chnetwork.org/

It is a reading list of Scripture(from both the New Testament and Old) and from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It has readings for each and every day. If we are able to follow this list, which could be a lot of reading but well worth it, then we will have read through the whole Bible(Catholic version with all 73 books) and through the whole Catechism in just 1 year.

With this list it is easy to try and do both the Bible and the Catechism. But it's set up so that a person can choose either Bible or Catechism if they would prefer that. I personally will be doing both.

I started this thread so we can try to keep all who are interested accountable and come here to ask questions about certain passages in either Scripture or the Catechism and just discuss it in general. What do you all think? It's the first today so we need to get on this pretty quick if we want to keep up.

walkwjc · 01-01-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by goldenchild

This comes from here, http://www.chnetwork.org/

It is a reading list of Scripture(from both the New Testament and Old) and from the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It has readings for each and every day. If we are able to follow this list, which could be a lot of reading but well worth it, then we will have read through the whole Bible(Catholic version with all 73 books) and through the whole Catechism in just 1 year.

With this list it is easy to try and do both the Bible and the Catechism. But it's set up so that a person can choose either Bible or Catechism if they would prefer that. I personally will be doing both.

I started this thread so we can try to keep all who are interested accountable and come here to ask questions about certain passages in either Scripture or the Catechism and just discuss it in general. What do you all think? It's the first today so we need to get on this pretty quick if we want to keep up.

Hey, Even though I'm not Roman Catholic, I think this is a great Idea. Good work.

Just to let you know, Your link in GD didn't work, so I posted a correction.

God Bless
-donnie

lizwrenne · 01-01-2005, 02:06 PM

i think that it's a great idea! that was one of my resoultions...to get through the catechism and the bible this year. sounds like a good way to do it, so count me in.

although i wasn't able to find a reading list on the site. maybe i'm just not looking hard enough?

-lauren.

goldenchild · 01-01-2005, 03:58 PM

Oh, sorry. Yeah, here's a link to a printable schedule. It should open as a pdf file that you can save and/or print out. In addition I will try to post the readings from both the Bible and Catechism for each week.

CLICK HERE

Any and all faiths can take part. If you don't want to read the books that the Catholic Church accepts as true and canonical then just skip those parts I guess. But I'd recommend reading them even if you don't accept their validity, even if just for religious historical literature.

Week 1
Day 1. Genesis 1.
Psalms 1
Matthew 1:1-17
Introduction to the Catechism of the Catholic Church(CCC from here on out).

How's this work?

Come and post anything that might have stood out to you in you're reading.

P.S. Please post which version of the Bible you plan to use. I'm using the New American Bible(this schedule corresponds exactly the NAB verse numbering system) along with the Navarre New Testament Bible Commentary.

KFBobInsanesMom · 01-01-2005, 04:18 PM

I bought a Devotional Daily Bible just before Christmas and it starts with the same scriptures only it also adds Proverbs 1:1-7 for Jan 1. I am reading NKJV. You can pick up this book cheap at Family Christian is you have one near you. Of course it won't have the Catechism in it, but you can follow that through the link given by goldenchild. I just thought some might like to have a "hard copy" of the scriptures so you can read anywhere and not be tied to being on your computer.

goldenchild · 01-01-2005, 05:07 PM

Oh I forgot to give links to online Catechisms... If anyone doesn't have a Catholic Catechism and can't get one fairly soon, and would still like to do the Catechism readings then go here Catechism of the Catholic Church

Just click on each section to find the right Catechism sections.

goldenchild · 01-01-2005, 05:09 PM

And here is a link to an online version of the New American Bible
http://www.nccbuscc.org/nab/bible/in...n Bible Online

Yeah, I definitely suggest getting a hard copy, but if you can't then these are fine alternatives.

walkwjc · 01-01-2005, 09:04 PM

Ok, I guess I'll Start here. First of all, I wont be online every week, so don't be suprised If i pop in and out of this thread.

OK, Here are my stats:

Bible Versions: KJV (Thompson Chain Reference) and Holman Christian Standard Bible

Supplemental: Scofield Commentary, Barnes Commentary,Fausset Ref, (pretty much the stuff on E-Sword)

Church: First Christian Church (Diciples of Christ)

Why am I here in the Roman Catholic study?: Because I like bible study of any nature, and because goldenchild invited us.

Ok, here is what I got from the three scripture readings: A main theme of generations. The planting of seeds and the growing of fruit. Even in Mathew, the line of decendants is an illustration of fruit being born.

Genesis 1 is the book of generation, so naturally this is the main theme, and it is natural that God sets up a pattern of learning in His Word, concerning growth and seeds and multiplication of the species. This is one of the few places where God was pleased with everything happening here on earth. From here on out, it is pretty much down hill.

Psalm 1 is still using the analogy of the grower, with the blessed being the seed and the sinner being the chaff. The blessed who meditates on God's Law, will be like a well watered tree, producing much fruit. There is the fruit analogy again.

Mathew1 describes the Chain of fruit and seeds that leads to the ultimate fruit/seed that is Jesus Christ.

Intro to Catechism: A bunch of good stuff there that makes me realize that the goals of the Catholic church and the Protestant church are still really very similar. There seems to have been a lot of time and research into God's holy word in order to come up with this ciruculum and only a few major things there that I disagree with in my faith(that I really think hold no relavence to this bible discussion so will go left unsaid here).

So you Catholics aren't all bad

J/K.

OK, goldenchild, I am not sure if that is what you are looking for in this thread, so let me know if i screwed up.

In Christ's Awesome Love
-donnie

goldenchild · 01-02-2005, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by walkwjc

OK, goldenchild, I am not sure if that is what you are looking for in this thread, so let me know if i screwed up.

I had no specific expectations for this thread, but what you did is absolutely perfect. That was great. Oh and I wanted to point out that I am really very impressed that you decided to read along in the Catholic Catechism. I know we have differences, so that's why I'm impressed. A question for you, are you going to try to read the books that the Protestant churches believe to be apocryphal, the ones that Catholics accept as part of the inspired canon? If not that's cool, I was just wondering because you're reading the Catechism.

I'll go now since I read the 1st day as well.

Bible Version: Mainly the New American Bible, but will reference the Douay Rheims and Revised Standard Version-Catholic Edition at times for accuracy.

Supplemental: Any Navarre Bible Commentary I can get my hands on.

Church: Roman Catholic Church

Why am I here? Because I made a New Year's resolution to do it

and I hope to keep it and I want to share my insights with others.

I also sensed a general theme of growth and development, from Genesis which spoke of the growth of Creation to Matthew which spoke of the growth of the line of Christ. I also noticed in Psalms 1 a theme of a growing and prosperous faith, Psalms 1:3 says "They are like a tree planted near streams of water, that yields its fruit in season; Its leaves never wither; whatever they do prospers." This makes a connection likening a faithful person to a tree that prospers and produces much fruit.

goldenchild · 01-02-2005, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by walkwjc

only a few major things there that I disagree with in my faith(that I really think hold no relavence to this bible discussion so will go left unsaid here).

Thanks, yeah I expect there to be disagreement. But I did put this here so that there would be no debate. And I will probably at times throw in a comment here and there about a certain passage that we are talking about and say some especially Catholic things. But you can just take them for what they are, comments, nothing more.

walkwjc · 01-02-2005, 02:47 AM

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I had no specific expectations for this thread, but what you did is absolutely perfect. That was great. Oh and I wanted to point out that I am really very impressed that you decided to read along in the Catholic Catechism. I know we have differences, so that's why I'm impressed. A question for you, are you going to try to read the books that the Protestant churches believe to be apocryphal, the ones that Catholics accept as part of the inspired canon? If not that's cool, I was just wondering because you're reading the Catechism.

Yes I will read all of the required text for this lesson, the apocrypha and such. I have an open mind about all faiths, I mean we all believe in Christ right? I am pretty solid in what I believe, but I think the better understanding of differing beliefs will benefit my relationship with Christ and other believers. As long as we all believe in Christ and God that is.

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Thanks, yeah I expect there to be disagreement. But I did put this here so that there would be no debate. And I will probably at times throw in a comment here and there about a certain passage that we are talking about and say some especially Catholic things. But you can just take them for what they are, comments, nothing more.

I've been to the theology forum. So no argument from me. I won't fret about your Catholic comments, if you wont flame me for any overly protestant comments I make. Another thing, I am pretty new to these types of boards and interfaith discussions, so any comments I make like that, are not ment to slam Catholics or anything, most likely they will be spoken out of my ignorance of what you believe. But also feel free to challenge me on anything out of line.

In Christ's Awesome Love
-donnie

goldenchild · 01-02-2005, 05:48 PM

That's cool. Yeah this is open to really any comments that are about the readings. We will interpret them differently, obviously as we don't hold the same beliefs, but this is okay as long as we do our best to refrain from trying to debate the other person's views here. If there is something important enough that comes up we can always start a discussion on it in the theology forum.

Here is the reading plan for the rest of the week.

January 2nd - Genesis 2, Psalms 2, Matthew 1:18-25, CCC #'s 1-10

3rd - Genesis 3, Psalms 3, Matthew 2, CCC #'s 11-17

4th - Genesis 4, Psalms 4, Matthew 3, CCC #'s 18-25

5th - Genesis 5-6:8, Psalms 5, Matthew 4, CCC #'s 26-30

6th - Genesis 6:9-7:24, Psalms 6, Matthew 5:1-20, CCC #'s 31-38

7th - Genesis 8-9, Psalms 7, Matthew 5:21-48, CCC #'s 39-49

Okay, that's the whole week. Post anytime you want on any of these readings. I am going to try and stick to reading just what is assigned for every day, but if anyone else prefers to jump ahead of schedule then go right ahead.

walkwjc · 01-02-2005, 07:44 PM

DAY 2/KJV

Genesis 2
How awesome would it have been, only if....here we see Adam walking with God. I mean, he got to name all the animals and had no more responsibility than to tend the garden. Gen 2:19 says God made the animals and then brought them to Adam to see what he would name them. Our awesome God fellowshiping with man. Another thing that stood out to me: no rain. God made a mist spring from the ground. Kinda sheds a little more meaning to the suprise folks felt in Noah's day when it started raining from the sky.

Psalm 2
Well here is that downhill thing I spoke of from Genesis 1. The earth is full of corrupt heathens. The thing I notice here is the difference of man's relationship with God. Before the fall, God was creating animals, and delighting at the names man gave them. Yet here, we are instructed to fear God and tremble in worship. God is ticked. But evenso his wrath on the heathen God still pours out his blessing on 'all that trust Him'.

Mathew 1 : 18-25
It seems God is preparing the way for another man to be raised out of the dust here, our saviour Jesus Christ. You know, Joseph must have been an alright guy, because, God had any number of ways to keep him from blabing about Mary's pregnacy. He could have closed his mouth until the birth, or made him dumb or ...well He's God he could have done what ever he wanted. But no, God sent an angel to talk to him. Let him know what to do. That's the way I want God to direct me. Not through tragedy or strife, or my own dumb decisions, but with the comfort of an angel of the Lord. Awesome.

CCC 1-10
1-3 pretty much fits in with the my self-studied theology I have come to know as non-calvinist. I think many Christians as a whole, forget about the gift we are given, and pursue the menial tasks of proving each other wrong in our theology and beliefs, instead of the task Jesus charged us with: go and spread the Gospel.

4-10 where I don't really disagree with the passing on of the faith teachings, there are a few things here that may need more explaining to me. But that's another thread ya'll

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In Christ's Awesome Love
-donnie

Thanks goldenchild for this thread, it rocks baby.

goldenchild · 01-02-2005, 10:01 PM

I'll post my thoughts a bit later. I'm going to pray the rosary first.

lizwrenne · 01-03-2005, 09:32 PM

some thoughts on what i read. i know that they're basic and all, but my brain is still on break:

God created us good. He created us male and female. to love one another.
evil is appealing, attractive.
Christ was born into the world to save us all--not just the jews, but everyone. it is a free gift He has given to us.