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Old 10-20-2001, 04:45 PM   #31
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It's a real list, the Mormon church in each city keeps a list of houses that their missionaries are not to go to for fear that those missionaries will be converted.
I think that is really funny! Fear of missionarys being converted haha..



Whats with Jahovahs Witnesses anyways??

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Old 10-20-2001, 04:55 PM   #32
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Whats with Jahovahs Witnesses anyways??
They deny that Jesus rose from the dead and also deny the Trinity. They've also rewritten the Bible to conform to their beliefs. I don't know much else about them.
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Old 10-20-2001, 08:49 PM   #33
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also, the mormons, all their stuff, the pearls, etc., supposedly disapeared into heaven, thats why they have no evidence, also, J Smith was known as a liar AND read galatians 1:8
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Fillup, if you could get me those verses I would really appreciate it. I believe I know the ones in the end of Rev. And I love that verse in Hebrews, Thanks. - And thanks in advance Fillup.

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Which verses are you after?
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Old 11-18-2001, 10:21 PM   #36
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I had a couple of Morman witnesses come to my place a couple of months ago. They asked if I would like to hear more about their faith. I said sure and invited them in, got them something to drink and we sat down and started talking. The first thing I asked them was "Why should I believe in a set of beliefs that is constantly being rewritten by lawyers." The Morman belief is rewritten constantly by lawyers. We talked for about an hour, they left with a perplexed look on their faith. I told them they could come back by anytime. They came back a week later. This time they weren't in their suits that they normally wear. The wanted to know more about Christianity. I have seen them two more times since the second time they came by, and each time they were more curious about Chrisitianity and what it means to be a Christian. They told me they kept going back to their leader and asking them about what I had said. I hope they come back by again, it seems to me that they Holy Spirit is speaking to them.
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thats awesome, God can even work through mormon's stubborn minds
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Old 11-26-2001, 09:45 PM   #38
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How do you refute a Morman? Like anyone else, with love and patience. I don't just attack the Morman. I do what John suggested in his letter, "Test the spirit". I ask please explain ..... And let them come to the conclusion. A good book to read is called The Morman Chonicles . It explains the differences between Mormanism and Christianity.

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I suggest the book, Kingdom of the Cults by Walter Martin. It not only gives an ouline of most major cults and many nonChristian religions, but it also helps to explain why people become involved in such institutions. I think that this book is a must for anyone involved in any type of cult evangelism.

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http://www.namb.net/evangelism/iev/Mormon/bbmormon.asp

good site for it, i printed the info out, and im reading it like 5 times over
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how can i show (prove, if you will) a mormon that the trinity does actually exist? what verses can i use. I was on a ission trip to panama this last summer and a moron approached us and would not stop about how the trinity doesn't exist and all that. the people who were with e and i were speechless. we weren't able to show her where in the bible it entions a trinity or "3-in-1" God. help!
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how can i show (prove, if you will) a mormon that the trinity does actually exist?
I'm not sure about the accuracy of this site, but at first glance it seems good enough....give it a shot

http://www.dtl.org/trinity/study/scriptural.htm


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I would have to disagree with the statement that "mormons are stubborn" because that just sounds a little too generalistic to me. I know a little about mormonism...they place importance on living lives according to the Book of Mormon, and I think are very focused on works. Also, they believe that there was a long-lost civilization of Mormons who "fell away" and stuff and became the descendants of the Native Americans...well anyway that's all rather confusing but the point is, they place a strong importance on how your life looks (you have to have recommendations to get into their church) and so of course they will not be very receptive to new ideas...however I think that it is possible to argue. One point, though...the religion is so strict that I think they would not care about Scriptural evidence because it is basically engrained into them that it is not true...so I would try maybe showing them love, and examples of God and Jesus "in action." Hope this helps...I am actually right in the middle of a history chapter about Mormonism, but this post may be a little confusing so if you have any questions I am, hopefully, ready to answer them
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Do what I did, ask them why their lawyers keep chaning the Book of Morman, that will get their intention.
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Here's what Mark Twain had to say about the _Book of Mormon_.



http://www.mrm.org/articles/mark-twain.html


Excerpts from Mark Twain's book _Roughing It_


pp. 102-103, 110


"All men have heard of the Mormon Bible, but few except the "elect" have
seen it, or, at least, taken the trouble to read it. I brought away a copy
from Salt Lake. The book is a curiosity to me, it is such a pretentious
affair, and yet so "slow," so sleepy, such an insipid ;mess of inspiration.
It is chloroform in print. If Joseph Smith composed this book, the act was a
miracle-keeping awake while he did it was, at any rate. If he, according to
tradition, merely translated it from certain ancient and mysteriously
engraved plates of copper, which he declares he found under a stone in an
out-of-the-way locality, the work of translating was equally a miracle, for
the same reason.


"The book seems to be merely a prosy detail of imaginary history, with the
Old Testament for a model; followed by a tedious plagiarism of the New
Testament. The author labored to give his words and phrases the quaint,
old-fashioned sound and structure of our King James' translation of the
Scriptures; and the result is a mongrel-half modern glibness, and half
ancient simplicity and gravity. The latter is awkward and constrained; the
former natural, but grotesque by the contrast. Whenever he found his speech
growing too modern-which was about every sentence or two-he ladled in a few
such scriptural phrases as "exceeding sore," "and it came to pass," etc.,
and made things satisfactory again. "And it came to pass" was his pet. If he
had left that out, his Bible would have been only a pamphlet.


". . . The Mormon Bible is rather stupid and tiresome to read, but there is
nothing vicious in its teachings. Its code of morals is unobjectionable-it
is "smouched" from the New Testament and no credit given."
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