so.. guys... i need some help..

McFly · 12-03-2004, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ForgivenPix

If he is too shy to ask you out, then it seems to me that he'd be too shy to stand up for you and too weak to stand up for his convictions. But if he doesn't come after you, then I wouldn't waist my time or feelings with it.

I disagree with this strongly. Just because someone is shy on the outside doesn't mean they won't be strong and stand up for you. Also, just because he doesn't come after you doesn't always mean he doesn't like you. Most of the time I don't pursue a relationship with a girl unless she shows interest in me first, show him that you like him and then see what happens.

ForgivenPix · 12-03-2004, 03:26 PM

That's fine, you can disagree with me.

But I'm not talking about a girl not showing interest in him first, I am talking about her pursuing him. I assume that my boyfriend at least had an idea that I liked him before we started dating. But that doesn't mean that girls should be the pursuer. I know that if a guy doesn't go after a girl it doesn't ALWAYS mean that he won't stand up. It's a general thought. But seriously, the guy is suppose to be the LEADER in the relationship, and if she has to ask HIM out, then she is playing that roll.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 12-03-2004, 04:26 PM

as a guy...

girls in general are in such a mood to be pursued and afraid to be forward that it is often hard to tell. Since I got engaged I found out several girls I liked and pursued wanted me to ask them out, but gave no indication of that. Now I am glad because that might have muddled waters that didnt need to get more murky.

but girls sometimes expect guys to read minds. BTW, being cautious with girls hearts as some shy guys are is the opposite of weakness. It may seem bashfull, but it may be the strongest guy who seems the shyest.

I am by no means afraid to stand up for my fiancee, never have been. But it took forever for me to ask her out because she always made it clear at the time that we were just friends...

ForgivenPix · 12-03-2004, 07:42 PM

I see what you're saying. I think you probably see what I'm saying too. We are just looking from 2 perspectives. My thoughts are all general. I am not "affraid" to be forward, I just don't think that girls shouldn't be, so I'm not. But I am not saying that shy guys are weak. I think that if a guy is going to be so shy that she has to ask him out, then it might not work just right. you know?
haha
-Pix

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 12-03-2004, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ForgivenPix

I see what you're saying. I think you probably see what I'm saying too. We are just looking from 2 perspectives. My thoughts are all general. I am not "affraid" to be forward, I just don't think that girls shouldn't be, so I'm not. But I am not saying that shy guys are weak. I think that if a guy is going to be so shy that she has to ask him out, then it might not work just right. you know?
haha
-Pix

not at all! I disagree, I was terrified and delayed to ask my fiancee out. Things obviously worked out, but I almost asked someone else out because she gave me no indication...

A lot of girls get into the being pursued mindset too well, and the guys give up the chase. And they have no reason not to. What I am saying is to be honest... Not necissarilly forward, but guys are not mind readers, guys do not like games, and a lot of times the good guys respect a girls wishes so if she is too hard to get, pull back out of an assumption of respect.

ForgivenPix · 12-04-2004, 08:16 AM

hmmm...ok, I understand. I am really bad at making my thoughts clear, but you have convinced me.

joyforjesus215 · 12-04-2004, 01:10 PM

I think that girls shouldn't be the one to ask a guy out. Sure maybe indicate you like him or w/e but I think girls shouldn't throw themselves at guys. (I'm not saying that's what you are doing, though!) I think guys should initiate the ask out. If he likes you, he'll ask you out.

**Simo** · 12-04-2004, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ForgivenPix

I see what you're saying. I think you probably see what I'm saying too. We are just looking from 2 perspectives. My thoughts are all general. I am not "affraid" to be forward, I just don't think that girls shouldn't be, so I'm not. But I am not saying that shy guys are weak. I think that if a guy is going to be so shy that she has to ask him out, then it might not work just right. you know?
haha
-Pix

i can see where you are comming from.... i think in a relationship there are certian things that a guy has to decide, call me old-fashioned if you want, but asking a girl out i think i one of the things the guys should do, i would be a bit worried about the relationship ifit was the other way around, not saying it wouldnt work though!

just a personal opinion

ForgivenPix · 12-04-2004, 10:46 PM

yep. and I didn't say it wouldn't work, I said it might not work just right. Basically what you said is all I am trying to say lol

bex2 · 12-26-2004, 03:36 PM

okay, this super silly. but boys are dumb and throw rocks at them.

Shredcheddar · 12-26-2004, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bex2

Who are you talking to? Just to let you know for later application, this is off-topic and it would be better to address this via private message.

That way, you don't disrupt the thread.

But I don't like flying rocks. And I certainly am not dumb.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 12-27-2004, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by bex2

okay, this super silly. but boys are dumb and throw rocks at them.

I am a man, I am not dumb and if you throw rocks at me you will regret it.

Personally, Id like to take this as an opportunity to point out that this is an offensive thing to say, much like it would be if I said "girls are all airheads who should be beaten"

Come on, it is obviously not a thing that is good to the use of edifying. Every word written, spoken, etc. will be judged before the judgement seat of Christ, so be careful in what you say.