tobyMac Attack Hits This Week

Jonular · 10-06-2004, 07:39 AM

Street week has arrived for TobyMac's sophomore offering, WELCOME TO DIVERSE CITY (today,10/5), and things are definitely heating up at radio, retail and more.

Last Thursday, September, 30, TobyMac hit the road with ThirdDay for their fall tour, which will run through early December and hit 42 key markets including Chicago, Detroit, Denver, Atlanta and Pittsburgh.

"Gone," the first single from WELCOME TO DIVERSE CITY continues to dominate CHR and Rock radio, hitting the #2 at Christian CHR this week and #2 on Christian Rock in just 4 weeks according to R&R's charts! In addition to ISDN interviews with Christian radio stations all across the country this morning, TobyMac will also appear on the nationally syndicated Rick & Bubba show this Friday, October 8th.

TobyMac launched a brand new redesigned web site today...go to http://www.tobymac.com to see more!

Tonight TobyMac will celebrate the release of WELCOME TO DIVERSE CITY in Nashville at the LifeWay Christian store in Cool Springs where he'll sign copies of the CD as well as his new book, UNDER GOD. The first 75 fans to arrive at the store will get to join TobyMac for pizza following the in-store event where he and his band will do a live acoustic performance.

For more information on tobyMac, click here.

Jonular · 10-06-2004, 07:43 AM

Best attacks I've seen so far:

(In reply to someone who paid $10 for the CD at WalMart: ) "First of all, you paid to much for it."

"You should eliminate the middle man (you) and just throw it directly into the garbage."

(In reply to somone who couldn't get the CD to play in Windows Media Player: ) "It seems Windows Media Player is programmed with some sense."

~Jon

onlyonthursday · 10-07-2004, 01:34 AM

I don't know why you think that about tmac's new album, but if you don't like it... don't listen to it. As for me, i bought it Oct. 5th and popped it in and got to Atmosphere and had his music really speak to me. I think God has plans for his new album and it's already affected me more than you could know. I like it alot and he is still playing around with different styles as a solo artist. Cut the guy some slack or come up with something better yourself! Toby's my boy and i will support he and dc Talk's ministry anyday!! They've been given this opportunity and i think they deserve not only some credit, but our prayers as well.

- Me

Jonular · 10-07-2004, 07:30 AM

"Hater... I love Jesus"? Are you implying that I don't?

Toby's music may have done things for you in your personal life but that doesn't make the music objectively good. The music is catchy, but nothing great, and the lyrics are just uggghhh. Cheesy. There is so much better music out there.

And I love dc talk myself.

~Jon

Brent · 10-07-2004, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SystemOfAJon

Toby's music may have done things for you in your personal life but that doesn't make the music objectively good. The music is catchy, but nothing great, and the lyrics are just uggghhh. Cheesy. There is so much better music out there.

And I love dc talk myself.

~Jon

I don't think anyone's *music* has changed anyone's life...perhaps the lyrics. I, personally (and that's why it's an opinion), think this album is leaps and bounds above the first one. Not only musically, but for the lyrics and collaborations on it. I like how people will write a band or artist off completely because of one album (or one SONG as the case would be for Jon, for example, since he's only heard that much, if even a couple short clips) without ever bothering to listen to their next effort. Whether or not anyone likes it, Toby is an astounding producer. If you listen to the layers of instrumentation and sampling in this album and know anything at all about recording and production you'll be blown away. I'm not pointing fingers at any one particular person, but there are so many close-minded people around here about music (and religion, for that matter) who seem to think that any music they don't like automatically sucks and no one else should listen to it because they won't like it either. That's just not how it works. Even if someone sounds just like every other (insert genre here) band out there...even if it's a COVER band...people could still appreciate the work that went into making it in the first place, because it's still a LOT of work regardless.

By the way, that's not an attack at Jon at all. I just know that he and a few others only heard a clip or two of the new album in a thread touting it's coming release and instantly wrote it off with more "TobyMac sucks" kinds of comments.

onlyonthursday · 10-07-2004, 08:33 PM

Couldn't have said it better myself...

- Me

Jonular · 10-08-2004, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Brent

Not only musically, but for the lyrics and collaborations on it. I like how people will write a band or artist off completely because of one album (or one SONG as the case would be for Jon, for example, since he's only heard that much, if even a couple short clips) without ever bothering to listen to their next effort.

Haha. One song? Hardly. For a long time, I considered Toby to be my favorite artist, and Momentum to be my favorite album.

I never expected much from this album, yes. Why should I? Momentum had a bunch of cheesy lyrics and wasn't that great musically. Welcome to Diverse City sounds like the same thing. It might be fun to listen to (hey, even I found that Whoops-i-Daisy or whatever song catchy), but that's not the end-all to what good music is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent

Whether or not anyone likes it, Toby is an astounding producer. If you listen to the layers of instrumentation and sampling in this album and know anything at all about recording and production you'll be blown away.

Does production have that big of a deal in the big picture, though? I realize production can make a song sound either horrible or great, but it doesn't actually make the song any better or worse.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent

I'm not pointing fingers at any one particular person, but there are so many close-minded people around here about music (and religion, for that matter) who seem to think that any music they don't like automatically sucks and no one else should listen to it because they won't like it either. That's just not how it works. Even if someone sounds just like every other (insert genre here) band out there...even if it's a COVER band...people could still appreciate the work that went into making it in the first place, because it's still a LOT of work regardless.

But when they just do their work so bad...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent

By the way, that's not an attack at Jon at all. I just know that he and a few others only heard a clip or two of the new album in a thread touting it's coming release and instantly wrote it off with more "TobyMac sucks" kinds of comments.

How do you know it was so "instant"? I wrote the song's chorus ("Gone") off after hearing it, yes....But this is not just a completely baseless claim "we" are making, here.

~Jon