10-05-2004, 10:47 PM
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#106 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq when it is on topic.
I could pull these lines from a psalm
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8b.happy is he who repays you
for what you have done to us—
9 he who seizes your infants
and dashes them against the rocks.
and say that it is God's will for us to happily crush baby's heads.
Yet the context tells us this is reffering to Babylon's judgement for enslaving Israel. it has a purpose and meaning. |
Babylon infants = religious systems, if you dont believe me look it up and see for yourself.
and they are dashing them against the rock,
The rapture is a baby (born) from a religious system, religious people were the first who wanted to Kill Jesus.
i thank you for writing that scripture, now i have just used it against you |
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10-05-2004, 10:48 PM
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#107 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by joshaber Then please refer me to your response to them. | I dont have to, they have already been responded to by FeatureingJesus |
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10-05-2004, 10:50 PM
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#108 | | Registered User
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BillSPrestonEsq said:
when it is on topic.
I could pull these lines from a psalm
137
8b.happy is he who repays you
for what you have done to us—
9 he who seizes your infants
and dashes them against the rocks.
and say that it is God's will for us to happily crush baby's heads.
Yet the context tells us this is reffering to Babylon's judgement for enslaving Israel. it has a purpose and meaning.
| Stop taking scripture and figureing it out in YOUR HEAD, scripture is supposed to be taken spiritually not fleshly. |
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10-05-2004, 10:51 PM
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#109 | | ...has no face
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Originally Posted by TruAsher I dont have to, they have already been responded to by FeatureingJesus | I can't seem to find them though. Could you please just tell me what post number it was?
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10-05-2004, 10:52 PM
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#110 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by joshaber I can't seem to find them though. Could you please just tell me what post number it was? | 42 |
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10-05-2004, 10:53 PM
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#111 | | Bulldogge Administrator
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Originally Posted by TruAsher Stop taking scripture and figureing it out in YOUR HEAD, scripture is supposed to be taken spiritually not fleshly. |
and what pray tell do you mean by that?
The scripture says it refers to judgement on babylon in the previous line. you are figuring this out in your head, with no apparent reasons behind it. I am seeking to find the authorial intent.
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10-05-2004, 10:53 PM
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#112 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq and what pray tell do you mean by that?
The scripture says it refers to judgement on babylon in the previous line. you are figuring this out in your head, with no apparent reasons behind it. I am seeking to find the authorial intent. | ok |
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10-05-2004, 10:55 PM
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#113 | | Bulldogge Administrator
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Originally Posted by TruAsher Babylon infants = religious systems, if you dont believe me look it up and see for yourself.
and they are dashing them against the rock,
The rapture is a baby (born) from a religious system, religious people were the first who wanted to Kill Jesus.
i thank you for writing that scripture, now i have just used it against you |
actually, I tend to think that you have no basis for that, for there is certainly none in the text of scripture, and I have looked this up.
You twisted and perverted it to make it a lie. That is all you just did.
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10-05-2004, 10:57 PM
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#114 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq actually, I tend to think that you have no basis for that, for there is certainly none in the text of scripture, and I have looked this up.
You twisted and perverted it to make it a lie. That is all you just did. | ok, funny that is what people who believe in the rapture did... |
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10-05-2004, 10:58 PM
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#115 | | ...has no face
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| Passages yet to be responded to:
1 Thes 4:13-17
Luke 17:34-36
1 Cor 15:51-52
BTW, mods, I still request that this be closed. I don't believe it will go anywhere profitable.
__________________ Beliefs Now I will celebrate
For all the thousand ways
That you have shown me grace
And made my heart in grace to stay
You make my heart in grace to stay
Lord, make my heart in grace to stay
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10-05-2004, 11:13 PM
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#116 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by joshaber Passages yet to be responded to:
1 Thes 4:13-17
Luke 17:34-36
1 Cor 15:51-52
BTW, mods, I still request that this be closed. I don't believe it will go anywhere profitable. | It doesnt matter, any second now i am gonna dissappear, and so are the rest of us christians and we are all just gonna leave the lost people for dead. And never be able to overcome. Im outta here |
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10-05-2004, 11:16 PM
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#117 | | Bulldogge Administrator
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Originally Posted by TruAsher ok, funny that is what people who believe in the rapture did... |
No.
1 thessalonians is a reference to the rapture at the end of days, in context of speaking about the dead arising and their hope.
4:13 Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. 14 We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 According to the Lord’s own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage each other with these words.
I am using NIV here, no reason in particular. the context is clearly speaking of believers meeting Christ in the air.
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10-05-2004, 11:21 PM
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#118 | | Auntie Becky
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| I'm closing this for now, though I, or another mod may open it back up later..
but everyone just chill out. Rapture or no Rapture is not the end of the world. lol. We'll figure it out as it happens, so no need to get all nasty about this difference. Just keep reminding yourself that you all are family.. and you are going to have to spend eternity with eachother... so you better learn to like eachother now
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