10-08-2004, 09:03 PM
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#61 | | The People's Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by shodan_to_be But there’s a deferens in reading it (even studying it), and indulging in it for entertainment purposes. BIG DEFRENES!!! (and you can’t say “I watch it so I can see how not to be”) | "difference" Quote:
Mr swordfish7, not one of those verses says any thing about "Requiring".
Matt 18:15-17, talks for it’s self. An example of this would be some one who claims to be a Christian, but goes out and sleeps around, or parties, or a “one day of the week” Christian.
| What? How does this apply to the discussion at hand? In this case, the verse does not speak for itself as you claim it does. Quote: |
and Hebrews 4:10 & 11, speaks for it’s self. When I was a little kid, when I did some thing bad, I got spanked. I hated it then, but now looking back, I thank God for it, I would of probably wound up in the place I work, as a student.
| I'm so confused...what point are you trying to make with these verses? They say absolutely nothing about the current topic at hand. Swordfish brought these verse up to point out that hearing about sinful things is not sinning. And the reference is actually Heb. 12:10-11.
In any case, we are required out of love to confront our Christian brothers with their sin. This requires that we must have heard about their sin to begin with. Observing sin isn't sinful. C'mon, this should be obvious... |
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10-08-2004, 09:07 PM
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#62 | | Ba da ba ba ba
Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,463
| The people who say this about POtC are probably the same morons that told me that Sigur Ros was evil new-age music.
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10-08-2004, 09:08 PM
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#63 | | I'm, Me
Joined: Aug 2002 Location: Thopmson fall's MT Posts: 69
| Romans 16
9Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
19Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I am full of joy over you; but I want you to be wise about what is good, and innocent about what is evil.
1 Corinthians 14
20Brothers, stop thinking like children. In regard to evil be infants, but in your thinking be adults.
3 John
11Dear friend, do not imitate what is evil but what is good. Anyone who does what is good is from God. Anyone who does what is evil has not seen God.
1 Thessalonians 5
22Avoid every kind of evil.
Deuteronomy 18
9 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. 10 Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in [1] the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, 11 or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. 12 Anyone who does these things is detestable to the LORD , and because of these detestable practices the LORD your God will drive out those nations before you. 13 You must be blameless before the LORD your God.
14 The nations you will dispossess listen to those who practice sorcery or divination. But as for you, the LORD your God has not permitted you to do so.
and with that I bid you adieu, you have seen the word of God, now it's up to you whether or not you live by it.
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10-08-2004, 09:12 PM
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#64 | | Ba da ba ba ba
Joined: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 5,463
| Yes, those are verses about evil. But what MAKES this movie evil? It's a fantasy movie, it's not telling you to go do what it depicts, it doesn't advise anything that happens in the movie.
-Kenny |
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10-08-2004, 09:24 PM
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#65 | | The People's Super Moderator
Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Aldergrove, BC, Canada Posts: 15,789
| He's correct: in order to use those verses in reference to this movie, you first have to prove that watching it is evil. You'll be hardpressed to do so, because at no point does the Bible equate seeing or hearing sin with actually sinning. |
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10-09-2004, 05:06 PM
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#66 | | is Your Mom
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 4,899
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Originally Posted by shodan_to_be "There's a difference between looking too much into things and taking them at face value."
ok, lets go to the most used question in sunday school, "Would you watch it, if Jesus was sitting there with you" or there is the "what would Jesus do?" | One of the most used questions...and one of the silliest. I can't imagine myself poohing in the stall next to Jesus', but there's nothing inherently bad about that. Even if I don't flush. |
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10-11-2004, 07:29 PM
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#67 | | I'm, Me
Joined: Aug 2002 Location: Thopmson fall's MT Posts: 69
| first off, give me one verse that says it's fine to watch the movie.
second, there is no sin in "poohin"
"What? How does this apply to the discussion at hand? In this case, the verse does not speak for itself as you claim it does."
both do very much so.
one says to confront, go back with a wittiness, then remove him. (but bring him back if he repents)
the second verse does as well. READ IT!!! it doesn't take an IQ of 1000 to understand it.
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10-11-2004, 08:24 PM
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#68 | | The People's Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by shodan_to_be first off, give me one verse that says it's fine to watch the movie. | Give me one verse that says it's fine to watch any movie. Give me one verse that says it's fine to use a porcelain toilet. Give me one verse that says it's fine to add to the Bible through legalism. Give me one verse that says it's fine to drink A&W Root Beer. Give me one verse that says it's fine to post on an internet message board. Give me one verse that says it's fine to eat a chocolate bar. Quote: |
second, there is no sin in "poohin"
| Right. And there's no sin in watching this movie either. Quote:
"What? How does this apply to the discussion at hand? In this case, the verse does not speak for itself as you claim it does."
both do very much so.
one says to confront, go back with a wittiness, then remove him. (but bring him back if he repents)
the second verse does as well. READ IT!!! it doesn't take an IQ of 1000 to understand it.
| Right. But what the heck does that have to do with this discussion? What's your point? |
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10-12-2004, 08:13 AM
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#69 | | Silent One
Joined: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,115
| Romans 14
14 I know and am convinced in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but to him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean.
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