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Old 09-30-2004, 06:37 PM   #16
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The Chinese admiral's name was Zheng He, and his fleet was vastl superior to Colombus' 50 years later.

There is even some crackpot British sailor guy who thinks he actually did sail to America ... of course, there's about as much proof of this as there is for Noah's flood.

Jerry thinks the Chinese would have failed to innovate even if they reached America first and would have been easily conquered by the invading Europeans. I disagree, because I think they would have allied with the Indians, rather than slaughter them because they weren't Christians -- when the Europeans came on the other side of the continent, the Chinese and Indians could feasibly say "get the hell off my continent" instead of "have some corn, I'll take your smallpox."

I swear, if I ever get a time machine, that's what I'm going to go back in time and make happen. That way we wouldn't even have to worry about the legimacy of the American Revolution because it probably never would have happened.

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Old 10-04-2004, 04:19 PM   #17
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Yeah, we would just have to worry about the legitimacy of the Chinese-Eurpopean world war and whatever else happened in the ensuing chaos.
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Old 10-04-2004, 04:23 PM   #18
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Yeah, we would just have to worry about the legitimacy of the Chinese-Eurpopean world war and whatever else happened in the ensuing chaos.
I think the Chinese would win because the Indians would help them and at the time they were as advanced as the Europeans (He had 60 ships, Colombus had 3).
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... of course, there's about as much proof of this as there is for Noah's flood.
and evolution. Although I beleive the flood did occur because I have faith that the Bible is divinely inspired by God...and why would He write a fib through one of His servants?
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Old 10-04-2004, 06:21 PM   #20
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and evolution. Although I beleive the flood did occur because I have faith that the Bible is divinely inspired by God...and why would He write a fib through one of His servants?
Actually there is evidence for evolution, such as many observed cases of speciation, genetic laws which support the theory, an extensive fossil record and geological data to match the fossil record, providing an intelligible history of speciation almost down to abiogenesis.

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and why would He write a fib through one of His servants?
I'd tell you, but since you are the brunt of the joke, I don't think you would appriciate knowing why.

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