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Old 09-21-2004, 07:14 PM   #16
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I have Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary on the whole bible, which is part of quickverse software. I dont know if anyone else is to familiar with Quckverse, but it seems to have an anti-catholic feel to it.

The commentary for Revelations points out the antichrist will come from papal Rome and the antichrist will be the Pope. i dont know if this is consistent with other commentaries and thoughts out there?
I've never heard of this commentary, but based on what it says about the antichrist I'd stay away from it. It's clearly anti-Catholic. I'll do some looking, and get back to you on what the Anti-Christ most likely is. Preliminary study tells me it is actually one of the Roman Emperors that was persecuting the Church and putting many saints to death in the very beginning of the Church. I'm thinking Emperor Nero, but I'll get back to you on this one.

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One interesting thing is something I read up on "the little pebble".
A catholic priest (I think) who has recieved messages from Mary, and still continues to do so, has been told the next pope (after John Paul II), will be the anti-christ.
Here is a link if anyone wish's to have a read on him.
http://www.shoal.net.au/~mwoa/
You may want to do a little more research on this guy. At least make sure he's really a Catholic Priest. He could be, but just try to find out, because this sounds very fishy. Visions from Mary have and I'm sure still do occur to people, but we must always be very careful about private revelation. Especially when they are critical of the Church. I wouldn't necessarily throw it out completely, but be careful. There may indeed be a reason why Pope John Paul II is holding on so darn long. Maybe he knows something that we don't as well. I'll read that link tonight if I get a chance. And I'll look into these things a little more and get back to you, probably tonight.

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Old 09-23-2004, 01:55 AM   #17
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Im just interested in what Aaron is trying to say about the RCC view on addressing Christianity onto a non-believer? Its quite confusing for me to read and fully understand.
It was very confusing for me as well. I don't understand what he's trying to say. All I can really see is some sort of thing for predestination and the lack of free will. This may be a question worth bringing up to others as I can't quite grasp what the article is saying. Sorry I couldn't be of help with this one.
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More stuff on the Antichrist and all that... I really am still studying it for myself. Here are some good links to look at if you want to know more...

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/01559a.htm (Antichrist)

http://www.catholicculture.org/docs/...fm?recnum=3129 (The ECF's on the Antichrist)

http://catholic.com/thisrock/2003/0304bt.asp (The Antichrist)

http://catholic.com/thisrock/2000/0001chap.asp (La Salette: Sorting Facts from Fiction)

http://cathinsight.com/apologetics/adventism/b666.htm (Demolishing the 666 claims) Also a really good source for showing that the Pope cannot fill the 666 claim read Patrick Madrid's "Pope Fiction". Really awesome book, one of the chapters covers this.

http://cathinsight.com/apologetics/a...m/popeanti.htm (Why the Pope cannot be the Antichrist)
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Good advice, goldenchild. (2nd post up) I did some research.
And your links provided are favorites of mine.

Bishop Peter Ingham’s message
Reflections on a schism - a false claim to legitimacy


“The Holy See has declared that there is nothing supernatural about the alleged visions of Mr William Kamm.(The Little Pebble)

“Mr William Kamm has chosen to spread false teachings, to make false claims to authority, and to establish himself and his activities in clear contradiction to the teachings, discipline and authority of the Catholic Church."

“Mr William Kamm’s assertions, teachings and actions are dangerous and harmful to Christ’s faithful.”
More at http://www.catholicweekly.com.au/03/jun/29/23.html

There’s about 5 days left in September. The “comet” due this month seems to be late.
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Bishop Peter Ingham has announced the excommunication of a priest who is the offsider of the NSW South Coast cult leader known as the Little Pebble.

The procedure for Fr Malcolm Broussard's excommunication was set in motion after he attempted to have himself consecrated as a bishop without a mandate from the Pope earlier this year.

Bishop Ingham announced Broussard's excommunication in an official decree issued yesterday.

http://www.cathnews.com/news/306/50.php

We have a similar nut-bar here in Canada. This priest, who has no jurisdiction and has had all his priestly duties removed, continues to spread dissent. He is obsessed with the exact wording of the consecration of Russia to Our Lady, and claims it has not been done. The Pope said it has been done, Sr. Lucia, the last surviving visionary of Fatima says it has been done, but this bone-head says they are lying, and he is not. His name is Fr. Gruner. Stay away from the fatima.org site.

These wackos have alot in common.

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Old 09-26-2004, 02:13 AM   #20
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Okay I was wondering about that "little pebble" thing. It sounded like a hoax to me but I couldn't find anything on the web. Good stuff.
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Did you try the website link that I put in for the "little pebbles" home page a few posts above? Here it is again if you missed it.
http://www.shoal.net.au/~mwoa/

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Here is one of the prophecies by the "little pebble" which I got from the website, which also kepha mentioned above with the comet! What do yopu all think? I guess we can find out for sure in the next few years or so if this guy is for real or not!

Answer 15: Let's start with the year 2000! June: a comet (Kohoutek) does a 'fly past' near Mars, causing either a collision with Mars, or creating an effect on the moon around Mars, Phobos, causing it to fly towards Earth. The moon can be shot to pieces by a rocket; thus three pieces will come to Earth, hitting France, U.S.A. and the Pacific Ocean. Apart from the main pieces there will be millions of small pieces - like a meteor shower - causing wide-spread fire damage and injuries. It is not clear yet if Mars itself has been hit, or its moons. Either way, the comet will cause many problems for the Earth.
Once the knowledge of this event comes to the world population, a great fear will take hold of the people, and massive anarchy and revolution will take place in cities all over the world, as people will scavenge what they can, and lawlessness will take its toll. Martial Law will be put into place. The debris of the comet, or moon, hitting the Pacific Ocean will cause tidal waves, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, as it will cause dramatic changes to the Earth. It is to be noted that our communications will be knocked out, and a possibility is that the Olympics in Sydney may be stopped, or disrupted, due to the world events.
It is an important factor that the Seers see the dates as they are given. However, it is to be noted that historically, the Julian Calendar and all previous Christian Calendars are actually out by three to four years - e.g.: most Seers have seen the events completed by the year ending of 2000, but that date equates to 1996-97. Therefore, the 'real 2000' will be 2004; thus, all prophecies are fulfilled according to real dates.
In 1997, Hale-Bopp was thought to be the comet related to major events, but that, of course, was not the true year! - and the comet was not Hale-Bopp, but Kohoutek! Thus all events will be completed by 2004 in Julian time. Once the events concerning the Mars situation unfold - which should be around August-September, giving it approximately three months for debris to travel from Mars to Earth - the world will be in shock.
In mid-September, Pope John Paul II will make an announcement which will trigger off a major event in the Christian world, namely a new reformation - which will precipitate a division - in the Catholic Church. From this point many things will happen: civil disorder, revolution in Italy, France, England - possibly civil war in some countries.
Around November, Russia will invade Poland and Italy. An atomic bomb will be set off, which is hidden under the subway in New York City - planted there by Russia some 30 years ago. The Pope will flee the Vatican, which will be on fire.
During November-December, 2000, war will break out in Europe and a new Pope will be elected.
Another part of the comet, Kohoutek, will affect the Earth. It will pass between the Moon and Earth and enter our atmosphere, but not hit us, causing instead a huge explosion in the sky, shifting the axis of our planet. Then three days of darkness will occur, and a white Cross will be seen in the sky.
After the Mars-comet event, September, 2000, the war will follow and the three days of darkness may be delayed for two or three years, depending upon events which must occur first. There will be another Middle East conflict before the Great War; this will be without nuclear weapons. Prior to this, war will break out along the east of Africa, north to south. All of this will occur after the U.S.A. withdraws troops from Europe.
Many people believe a nuclear war might never happen, but within the framework of 2000-2004 during the Third World War, China will attack Japan, Asia and Russia, and will come to the aid of Europe. It is to be noted that Russia will attack the United States from, or through, Alaska and via Cuba. China, too, will move towards the Middle East and Australia. It is unpleasant to say, but Indonesia will attack Australia via the northern regions and via Papua New Guinea.
All of this will end with a Great Warning from Heaven, via the comet passing through the atmosphere of the Earth. Once the Earth has stopped in its axis, the world will have many earthquakes, tidal waves, volcanic eruptions, and all islands will sink. A new land will rise, while the old land mass will fall.
During this whole four year period of unrest and chastisements, some two-thirds of humanity will have died. But peace will be restored and man will rebuild the world and the Church. The old Monarchy will be restored, as democracy will have disappeared. For a while this peace will continue until the Antichrist appears, as will Enoch and Elijah. They will continue until the comet Wormwood appears and hits the Earth. The Second Coming of Jesus Christ, the Messiah, will then be apparent.
There are endless other events, but it would take too much to deal with it now.
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Did you try the website link that I put in for the "little pebbles" home page a few posts above? Here it is again if you missed it.
http://www.shoal.net.au/~mwoa/

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Yeah, it didn't work for me the first time I clicked it. It's up now.
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Here is one of the prophecies by the "little pebble" which I got from the website, which also kepha mentioned above with the comet! What do yopu all think? I guess we can find out for sure in the next few years or so if this guy is for real or not!
Doesn't that say that it should happen by around 2004, being that the calendar is not quite accurate? Well, that would only give him a couple of months, wouldn't it? Or did I read that wrong.
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Okay, I can move on to more questions if anybody's got em. We can keep talking about the prophecy dude, but I doubt it's real, especially if it mentions a pope as antichrist.
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The Little Pebble is a cult.

Maybe I wasn’t clear the first time.

“The Holy See has declared that there is nothing supernatural about the alleged visions of Mr William Kamm.(The Little Pebble)

“Mr William Kamm has chosen to spread false teachings, to make false claims to authority, and to establish himself and his activities in clear contradiction to the teachings, discipline and authority of the Catholic Church."

“Mr William Kamm’s assertions, teachings and actions are dangerous and harmful to Christ’s faithful.”
That is from Bishop Peter Ingham. The bishop is being very clear, and is speaking forcefully. My turn.

The Little Pebble is a cult. Kamm is a con artist, a nut case, a fake. Stay away from that crap.

His “priest” has been excommunicated. That speaks volumes. Listen to the Church, not some wacko.

Any and all visions or locusions must be reported and subject to the authority of the bishop or they are fake from the start.

Please drop this pebble as fast as you can. Stay away from it, it’s toxic to your faith.


I do have about 40 questions, but it's more a quiz for non-Catholics. I'll post it when I get my own computer back.

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Old 10-03-2004, 12:06 PM   #27
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Dude I know! I was just trying to reason it out logically, so show where his error is. There's nothing valid about the guy but it's good sometimes to have proof of this by showing his prophecies have failed.
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I found this guy on the website but never for a second thought he was genuine. I brought it up to see if anyone else across the globe has heard of him, obviously he is a fake.
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OK, a fresh question here regarding the "gifts of the Holy Spirit".
I read "1 Cor 12", and the commentry on it and left me still a bit hazy on what its about.

Why im asking? Well, im curious as to know if a "psychics" ability is from the Holy Spirit. If they confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, then you could say their ability is a gift from the Holy Spirit.
If they dont confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, ie: a non Christian, then are their abilities from Satan, or is it still from the Holy Spirit, but they refuse to believe in Christianity?

P.S. Where can you get a good commentary on the bible? In an earlier post Goldenchild mentioned he has the Navarre Commentary? Can I get this from a christian bookstore?
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P.S. Where can you get a good commentary on the bible? In an earlier post Goldenchild mentioned he has the Navarre Commentary? Can I get this from a christian bookstore?
I'll just get to this for now...
The Ignatius Study Bible is very good. It's got good commentary from Scott Hahn(one of my favorite apologists) and Curtis Mitch. It doesn't have the whole Bible yet, I don't think. It's a fairly new product. Here's the set of what they have.
http://www.getfed.com/display_result...ID=185&new=yes

It's like $50, I think it said. Also get the Ignatius Study Bible for 1 & 2 Corinthians(I didn't see it in the set).

Another good one is the Navarre Commentary. Check here for more info, it's more expensive but well worth it(I still haven't gotten all of them). http://www.catholicshopper.com/produ...rre_Bible.html

I've also got another one that I think is good. It's the "Practical Commentary on Holy Scripture" by Archbishop Frederick Justus Knecht. I like it a lot. It covers everything up through the Book of Acts, why it stops there I'm not sure. But well worth the money. It has a concordance in the back on Catholic teaching, this alone is worth a lot. Check it out. http://www.catholicmart.com/prcoonhosc.html

I hope this helped some... I'm not sure what is available in Australia as I am not there. I'm not too sure that they will be in a Protestant-Christian store but they may be in a Catholic one. Best bet is to get them online though.
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