One Currency (from:"One World Government")

**Epaphras** · 07-29-2004, 08:19 AM

There's a thread in "Theology" about a one world government. Here's the first and last post:

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my sunday school teacher has been talking baout the end times and we came to an erie thing....we were thinkning that the one world government is the European Union, and the anti-christ will come out of Europe...

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As I understand it, the EU is little more than a trade union. Since this is not Star Wars, I doubt that a trade union is going to take over the universe.

I would certainly be opposed to a one-world government, though not because I'm scared of the end times; I would oppose it because I'm afraid of corruption of those in higher levels (after all, there might be one of many anti-Christs in there ). A one world currency, however, would be very useful, assuming that all governments recognized it as legit. I should stop here. I'm dallying into economics, something on which I am not strong.

can i get some feedback on what youo guys think about this.

Sooooo, this leads to a discussion on a one-world currency. Pros, cons, etc? Aaaaaannnd...go.

JerryLove · 07-29-2004, 09:09 AM

Not possible to have a unified currency without a unified government.

**beanbag** · 07-29-2004, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryLove

Not possible to have a unified currency without a unified government.

what about the euro? those countries don't have unified government systems.

JerryLove · 07-29-2004, 10:02 AM

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what about the euro? those countries don't have unified government systems.

They do, in very much the same way the 50 states in North America do. The EU has a good deal of control over its member-states.

TheProdigalModern · 07-29-2004, 06:24 PM

I don't see how it wouldn't be possible for all of the member nations of the U.N. to sign an agreement to use the same currency. An international trade treaty, of sorts.

*Edit*I just realized just how mind boggling the logistics of this would be, figuring out a dollar to [world unit] ratio, or a Vietnamese Dong to [world unit] ratio.

JerryLove · 07-30-2004, 06:04 AM

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I don't see how it wouldn't be possible for all of the member nations of the U.N. to sign an agreement to use the same currency. An international trade treaty, of sorts.

Then answer these questions:
Who prints it?
Who decides how many get printed and who it goes to?

The group that controlls the printing and distribution has intemate control of the economies that use it.

That said, many countries back their bills with something. There was a time when the US dollar was backed with gold. A US dollar had a value outside the US because it could be exchanged at the treasury for gold. Interestingly, many countries back their bills with the US-dollar.

Today, the US backs the dollar only with it's word that it is good.

**Epaphras** · 07-30-2004, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryLove

Today, the US backs the dollar only with it's word that it is good.

...true...but scary

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I think the reason the Euro works is because a lot of European countries, especially those in the EU, have very similar governments. In a sense, they are all one government, more similar to states, as someone mentioned. Whether that's a good or bad thing; I guess we'll see in the near future.

Wheatmeister · 07-30-2004, 10:08 AM

The Euro's purposes are as much pragmatic as anything else. We're talking about countries the size of US states where people can and do cross international borders quite frequently. It makes business and tourism a lot easier when one doesn't have to stop and exchange currency from say, France to Spain.

Furthermore, as with the US and its global hegemony, I think the proliferation of the dollar could just as easily point to the anti-Christ coming out of the US as anywhere else. Because really, as much(or perhaps as little) as I care about the end times, the prophesies people use to guess-timate such things are so vague that one could make a case for the anti-Christ coming from virutually any country. That's been the case for centuries. Why worry? God will do what He does and I'm more than happy to leave Him to it.

**Epaphras** · 07-30-2004, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wheatmeister

The Euro's purposes are as much pragmatic as anything else. We're talking about countries the size of US states where people can and do cross international borders quite frequently. It makes business and tourism a lot easier when one doesn't have to stop and exchange currency from say, France to Spain.

Furthermore, as with the US and its global hegemony, I think the proliferation of the dollar could just as easily point to the anti-Christ coming out of the US as anywhere else. Because really, as much(or perhaps as little) as I care about the end times, the prophesies people use to guess-timate such things are so vague that one could make a case for the anti-Christ coming from virutually any country. That's been the case for centuries. Why worry? God will do what He does and I'm more than happy to leave Him to it.

BTW, the anti-Christ was Roman Emperor Nero. Go read a book about the history of the Roman Empire - the fulfilled prophecy is amazing. Most of the book of Revelation, along with 90% of "end times" prophecies of Daniel, the prophets, etc. occured in the 60s AD.

Wheatmeister · 07-31-2004, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by disciple_419

BTW, the anti-Christ was Roman Emperor Nero. Go read a book about the history of the Roman Empire - the fulfilled prophecy is amazing. Most of the book of Revelation, along with 90% of "end times" prophecies of Daniel, the prophets, etc. occured in the 60s AD.

I agree completely. I was speaking more to the wave of dispensationalism that's been sweeping this country lately. My point was more for those folks that for informed sorts such as ourselves. And it's really fun to get dispensationalists all upset by suggesting that the anti-Christ could come from the US. Try it sometime.

**Epaphras** · 07-31-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheatmeister

I agree completely. I was speaking more to the wave of dispensationalism that's been sweeping this country lately. My point was more for those folks that for informed sorts such as ourselves. And it's really fun to get dispensationalists all upset by suggesting that the anti-Christ could come from the US. Try it sometime.

Yeah they say, "Hey, the Left Behind books said he comes from Romania! You're wrong! He can't come from America! That's not how it happens in the books!"

...good times

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smashing guitar · 08-03-2004, 05:03 PM

Dude that suck for the us cause the us curency is the most vaubal of them all, one americin dollar is like 5000 chines. i say screw the world curency.

aiwahead · 08-03-2004, 05:50 PM

Um. No it isnt. >.<

teb468 · 08-04-2004, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by smashing guitar

Dude that suck for the us cause the us curency is the most vaubal of them all, one americin dollar is like 5000 chines. i say screw the world curency.

such a deep intellectual comment. except for the fact that i think the British pound is worth more than a dollar. though i'm not quite sure what vaubal means.