[Enobmurt]

Originally Posted by bobthecockroach

It is my understanding that "always" or "without ceasing" is not to be taken literally. However, that seems a slightly different issue from "In all I do, I honor You" or "I will give You all my worship." It seems perfectly reasonable to me to take "without ceasing" to mean, "without giving up or forsaking" and to take "always" to mean the same thing. It doesn't seem reasonable to me to take "In all I do, I honor You" to mean, "I want to honor You in all." In any event, I doubt this discussion will go anywhere because I am a very literal and critical person and you, obviously, are not. Until one of us changes, we will not agree.

Unfortunately just saying it seems reasonable to you is just an opinion without any backing. I dont see how you can reasonably separate the sayings. They are all sayings that under normal circumstances aren't taken literally.
We're commanded to give him everything in worship and to rejoice always. Just because I end up short every single time doesn't mean I'm not going to try and honor Him in all I do.
I guess this does just come down to opinion, but I just wanted to show that you can't prove worship songs with those types of lyrics are doctrinally unsound.

On another note, I guess I will add my song that I believe is unsound theologically.

Thank You

For all that You've done I will thank You,

For all that You're going to do,

For all that You've promised and all that You are

And all that has carried me through, Jesus I thank You.


And I thank You, thank You, Lord (echo).

And I thank You, thank You, Lord (echo).


Thank You for loving and setting me free,

Thank You for giving Your life just for me

Now I thank You, Jesus I thank You,

Gratefully thank You,

Thank You.
©1991, Shepherd's Heart Music
Words and Music by Dennis Jernigan

I must say first that I'm amazed at how they made this song so much God-centered (thank you parts) and man-centered at the same time.
However, God didn't die JUST for me. He died for all the other regenerate and for His own glory also.
This is clearly unbiblical and unless the writer has a logical explanation about what he might really mean, I take out the "just" and I'm perfectly fine with the song.

[bobthecockroach]

...why couldn't it just be an implication of something else?

[spongyfungy]

That song, My Glorious with the line And all you ever do is change the old for new

I believe the author was trying to understate what God does and changing the old for new could be interpreted as an all-encompassing act?? That's the feeling I got. Like "all you ever did was save my life, no biggie" not "the only thing you do, is change stuff from old to new"

You are my king. "in all i do, I honor you"

I've heard on the radio with the lyrics, in all i do, let me honor you
I'm not sure if that changes anything but it does show that there was something wrong with the original lyrics and they tried to fix the song as melodically as possible.

Someone already mentioned "You Said".....

My pastor had a beef with In Your Hands The first line I'm so secure Not everyone is going to be secure in God when they sing that song..so he'd rather not sing it altogether. I agree with him, but the rest of the lyrics are ok, i believe. including that line "You'll never let me go" which brings me to my next song.

Jesus, Lover of My Soul

Though my world may fall, I will never let You go

the last three I mentioned were Hillsongs, hmmmm. I'm a big hillsong fan too...

[Sean]

Originally Posted by spongyfungy

You are my king. "in all i do, I honor you"

I've heard on the radio with the lyrics, in all i do, let me honor you
I'm not sure if that changes anything but it does show that there was something wrong with the original lyrics and they tried to fix the song as melodically as possible.

The Newsboys changed the lyric on their recording of it. I would say the changed lyric is far more appropriate than the original.

Jesus, Lover of My Soul

Though my world may fall, I will never let You go

the last three I mentioned were Hillsongs, hmmmm. I'm a big hillsong fan too...

My church used to run this song with that lyric. So one sunday the pastor references the song during his talk and quoted the line "Though my world may fall, you will never let [/i]me[/i] go" without even realizing he'd changed the line. So the worship team noticed his slip of words was more theologically sound than the original lyric and started changing the words when they did it in the future.

[Bryan]

Originally Posted by Enobmurt

Thank You for giving Your life just for me

i've never seen the song like this, i've always sung it:

Thank You for giving Your life up for me.

[Enobmurt]

Originally Posted by Bryan

i've never seen the song like this, i've always sung it:

Thank You for giving Your life up for me.

Well those are the official lyrics. That's the way my church played it and I got those lyrics off of www.higherpraise.org

Anyways, I have no problem with the changed lyrics. In fact, some people have explained it a different way, saying they understand it differently. I forgot what the explanation was, but I guess that's fine also.

I honestly try not to dwell to much on this stuff and instead concentrate on my own personal communion with God and trying to offer up my body as a living sacrifice to God. That's where the true worship is.

I'll look at the words for a sec and most of the time they are so vague that its easy to interpret them in a way that is theologically sound.

Like I said before, sentences with all and always, and never ceasing, stopping etc etc. I personally don't take them literally, from friends, or from worship.

"I'm always praying for you"
"She's always on my mind"
"All he ever does is sit on the couch and watch TV"
etc etc

[bobthecockroach]

Originally Posted by spongyfungy

My pastor had a beef with In Your Hands The first line I'm so secure Not everyone is going to be secure in God when they sing that song..so he'd rather not sing it altogether. I agree with him, but the rest of the lyrics are ok, i believe. including that line "You'll never let me go" which brings me to my next song.

That throws out a lot of songs.

Every song that says, "I love You, Lord (or God, or any other name for God)," would have to be thrown out. Christians don't always love God at every moment.

Any song that makes a mention of being happy would have to go. Not everyone will be happy when they sing the song.

Actually, any song that makes a mention of an emotion would have to go. Not everyone will be feeling that emotion at the time.

Any song that starts a sentence with the words, "I know," would be gone. Not everyone will know whatever it is when they sing the song.

Heck, one of my favorite songs would have to go: Knowing You. "Now my heart's desire is to know You more." That's not the desire of everyone's heart.

Oh, another one. We'd have to throw out the hymn, When I Survey The Wondrous Cross. Not everyone will have the same reaction (counting their richest gain as loss, pouring contempt on all their pride) to the cross that Isaac Watts had.

[NazisInhale]

Originally Posted by MrCrabby

I've always had a problem with the song "Praise Adonai". The chord progression and melody is cool, but the lyrics just seem like they were thrown in there randomly.
One line: "Who is like Him? Lion and the Lamb seated on the throne..."
Now, I know that in the Old Testament, Jesus was referred to as the "Lion of Judah." But in the NT, "Lion" refers to the Devil (1 Peter 5:8, 2 Timothy 4:17).
Another line in the chorus says: "Praise Adonai. All the nations of the earth, and all the angels of the saints sing praise."
I just have no idea what that means. "Angels of the saints"??? Does it mean to imply that every saint has their own angel? If someone can clear that up for me, I would be happy.
That's the only song I can think of off the top of my head.

Our church sings it as, "Angels AND the saints." Incase you were wondering.