The harm of words is sometimes we don't quite know what they really mean...

**Leboman** · 06-23-2005, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by *claw*

Jesus was human. He had to take dumps, too. It is very Christ-like.

How much time in Purgatory gets knocked off if you kneel and pray at the poop of Christ?

benj · 06-23-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by *claw*

Jesus was human. He had to take dumps, too. It is very Christ-like.

Scripture?

* · 06-23-2005, 10:12 AM

Show me some that proves disposing of waste isn't Christ-like.

Braid · 06-23-2005, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate

Dude. If you can find it, I would ~~worship the ground you walk on~~ thank you profusely.

Mmm. I shall have to find the books. I think I boxed them up last year.

I am very sorry for your loss

Nate · 06-23-2005, 01:10 PM

How did my blog get to the topic of Jesus' feces?

benj · 06-23-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by *claw*

Show me some that proves disposing of waste isn't Christ-like.

H*ck, no! I asked you first!

Nate · 06-23-2005, 10:14 PM

Random thought: I hate ties. I own one tie (no, wait... I have my old AWANA leader tie, as well). I'm planning on wearing it tomorrow to my piano professor's funeral. I just have to look up how to tie one, again. I look it up and practice for hours every time I have to wear the thing, but I never remember it in the future because I simply don't wear the dang thing enough.

In His love,
Nate

Nate · 06-23-2005, 10:23 PM

Ok... so it didn't take me hours to remember how to do it this time (after looking at the instructions on tie-a-tie.net, of course). Still, it's embarassing. Heh.

In His love,
Nate

nix · 06-23-2005, 10:39 PM

Get a clip on

Nate · 06-23-2005, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nix

Get a clip on

Meh... too cheeky. I'd rather just re-learn every time, actually.

In His love,
Nate

nix · 06-23-2005, 10:42 PM

Fair enough

Nate · 06-24-2005, 06:12 PM

Well, I attended the funeral this morning... in the tie, no less.

I didn't really know what to say to Mr. Swanzy, so I basically just "Hey" and "I'm sorry" and gave him a quick hug. He seemed in relatively high spirits, considering the circumstances.

There were a lot of people there. At least 100... probably close to 150 with everyone that went in, came out, etc throughout the day. I saw most of the music faculty members I knew from school, and a lot of them came and talked with me for awhile. That was nice. My economics professor was also there, and I was not expecting to see him until next semester. That was a cool surprise.

There were quite a few of my professor's students from my university there, as well. I saw pretty much everybody in her studio who lives around here, except for one girl who lives across the river from me.

This was only like my second or third Catholic mass ever. It is so confusing to me, as an outsider. I try to follow along with the liturgy, but I never know what they're saying, and everyone just sort of mumbles so it's hard to copy the people around you. I didn't take communion, obviously. I never really understood why Catholics practice closed communion. Is that distinctively Catholic or do other "high churches" practice communion that way as well? Growing up Baptist / non-denom, we always practicied what we called "open communion." Anyone in attendance who professed Jesus as Savior and Lord was welcome to take communion with us, regardless of their church affiliation / membership. Oh well.

In His love,
Nate

finchfeeder · 06-25-2005, 05:58 AM

You are such a blessing to me!

I am checking out the Missouri Lutherans. They are the moderately strict branch of Lutheran. With them, you have to check in with the pastor or an elder and register or something.

Even the ELCA(liberal branch) Lutherans have communion cards. The ELCA church said that it was to keep track of those who disappeared from church. The Missouri, I think, have a different reason. I don't understand any of that. I refuse to sign any card saying that I am going to communion. I did get permission from the pastor.

The Missouri Lutheran church here has a really cool ritual for communion. The ushers count off the people and tell them when to go up front. The people go up and stand there. The minister then says "Welcome to the Lords table." He bows. The people kneel. The minister and his assistant go down the row passing out the Body and Blood. If a person has not yet started taking communion, the minister places his hand on their head and says a blessing. The whole time the minister walks down the row passing out communion, he is saying something. It's a continuous sentence. After the whole row has been fed, the minister stands in the middle and gives a blessing. The people get up and go back to their seats. The whole thing starts over again with the next group.

I spoke to an ELCA pastor and he said that he had been given permission to go to communion with the Catholics. I went to a seminar for mixed marriages. Some had gotten permission and some were abstaining. Some just went to communion any way. I have decided that I am going to go to communion anyway no matter what church I am in. I have been told by 3 ministers of 3 different churches to keep going to communion no matter what. I spoke to 1 old Catholic priest who said not to mix. I spoke to a young Catholic priest who said that the best thing we can do is to mix. I think that I would refrain until I had permission if I went to a more strict branch of Lutheran. I'll have to ask the guys what the rule is about that.

Nice observation about Lee's baby!

Nate · 06-25-2005, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by finchfeeder

You are such a blessing to me!

You're too kind... but thanks.

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I am checking out the Missouri Lutherans. They are the moderately strict branch of Lutheran. With them, you have to check in with the pastor or an elder and register or something.

Even the ELCA(liberal branch) Lutherans have communion cards. The ELCA church said that it was to keep track of those who disappeared from church. The Missouri, I think, have a different reason. I don't understand any of that. I refuse to sign any card saying that I am going to communion. I did get permission from the pastor.

That's all very odd.

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The Missouri Lutheran church here has a really cool ritual for communion. The ushers count off the people and tell them when to go up front. The people go up and stand there. The minister then says "Welcome to the Lords table." He bows. The people kneel. The minister and his assistant go down the row passing out the Body and Blood. If a person has not yet started taking communion, the minister places his hand on their head and says a blessing. The whole time the minister walks down the row passing out communion, he is saying something. It's a continuous sentence. After the whole row has been fed, the minister stands in the middle and gives a blessing. The people get up and go back to their seats. The whole thing starts over again with the next group.

That's pretty close to what my pastor has started doing at our church when we take communion. Usually, we just pass out the two elements in offering-style plates and then everyone takes them together. We've started occasionally doing something where each row will come up to the front, receive the elements, then take them up there after the pastor recites a relevant Scripture passage and blesses the meal.

In some ways I like it, but in other ways I don't. I like the fact that this is more personal, so that each person feels like they are truly part of the meal (there's something about standing with the pastor that makes it feel more personal than sitting in your pew; you feel more like a participant than an observer, I guess). I don't like the fact that everyone partakes at different times with this method. I think this all but eliminates the "union" part of communion. Obviously, it's not the simultaneity of the partaking that makes us one, but, rather, the common meal that we all share. However, there's just something special (I think) about everyone partaking at the same time. It's like a physical (or temporal, I guess I should say) reminder of the spiritual union that communion represents to us. That said, the spiritual union of believers is not the main thing that communion represents. The remembrance of Christ's sacrificial death is obviously the main reason to take communion.

So, that all said, I'm really not sure what I think... I just know that I don't think communion should be closed to only the members of a particular church.

In His love,
Nate

Nate · 06-25-2005, 04:01 PM

I made crepes this morning for brunch. After we had all eaten at least 2 normal-size ones, I used the rest of the batter to make el huge-o crepe. Observe:

It is filled with maple-flavored breakfast sausage and whole-berry cranberry sauce, and drizzled with hot maple syrup. Yummy.

In His love,
Nate