[Rainer.]

Originally Posted by smashing guitar

Well I think im giving up on amp distortoin. Like my classic 30 has a totaly awsome distortoin, but im gonna get the rat2 distortoin, just cause its more in depth. So really im looking for a small tube amp with a good tube clean.
Dont get me wrong tho, I love my classic 30. but I was just gonna leave it at my church, and i would still have have that awsome tube sound at home.

If you're planning to use the pedals for all the distortion, and have no need for much tube saturation, the Fender Champ would be a reasonable choice. Very simple amp, one volume, one treble, one bass as far as controls. I love the sweet clean tone, and when cranked it gives awesome tubey overdrive. But it's a one channel mainly clean amp (developed back when "distortion" was undesirable, and basically unheard of), and it packs a lot of sound if you consider it's only 6 watts with one power tube. But this probably isn't the choice if you're looking for a more modern, versatile option.

[smashing guitar]

how much?

[Rainer.]

A lot of them go for around $100 on eBay now. They're a discontinued model (for a long while now), so you'll be pulling up mainly 60's and 70's amps.