[vicn]

Who has recommendations for lessons on video? I see various ones in music shops but most likely some are good and some are ...not.
This is for my son. He will probably be more interested in electric guitar, rock in particular.
Thanks.

[Flyguy]

Originally Posted by vicn

Who has recommendations for lessons on video? I see various ones in music shops but most likely some are good and some are ...not.
This is for my son. He will probably be more interested in electric guitar, rock in particular.
Thanks.

Buy Fretboard Logic SE. It has a corresponding video series, but that is not entirely necessary. With Fretboard Logic SE, you will learn everything you need to know about the guitar's unique tuning system, and will be thoroughly equppied to navigate the fretboard with ease. The knowledge you gain from Fretboard Logic SE can be applied to any style of music. It is an indespensible reference that you will come back to countless times.

I just can't say enough about Fretboard Logic SE.

[Xakep_INC]

As it was said before. Buy Fretboard Logic SE.
Not only it will teach you about navigating the fretboard, it will also give you the knowledge needed to understand chord forming. It will also explain the CAGED chord formation system.

And btw, where's Chesh?

[elijah77jc]

does anybody here have the fretboard logic videos?

[CheshireCat]

Originally Posted by Xakep_INC

And btw, where's Chesh?

Where's Chesh? Right here! Now, the pressing question: Where's Waldo?

Originally Posted by elijah77jc

does anybody here have the fretboard logic videos?

Yes, I have the viddies. They're great, but digest SE first, then move on the to the viddies. The viddies assume that you've digested SE first.

Chesh

[Kevin071586]

Not that I like to say this, but I think he may be looking for something more a long the lines of.. "This is a D power chord. Play it here, here, here, and hell, even way up here."

I could be 100% wrong, too, and I hope I am. It is all dependent on his son's expectations for guitar. If he's looking just to try it and see if he likes it, or wants to be able to play almost immediately he should just print out a sheet with 6 words on it.. "133xxx move up or down fretboard." On the other hand, should he be interested in actually learning how to play the guitar, i'd also recommend Fretboard Logic SE. It is a simple and logical book, but it will require patience and the desire to learn.

-Kevin

[Sinker]

I highly recommend this one by Paul Baloche:

http://www.worshipmusic.com/8248300533.html


It features Glenn Pearce on electric, and covers lots of ground, including triads, power chords, voicings, effects and more. My only complaint is that it's a few years old and is only available on VHS, not DVD.

[vicn]

My expectations for my son are to get an introduction to guitar techniques and general information in a musical context. IOW, since he has played trumpet for 3 years and can play piano, he has a good foundation in music. Finger it “133xx” like somebody wrote is one of those sorta mechanical approaches that I don’t think is a complete picture. I want him to know about chord structure and changes and the like.
Those notations are a nice "shorthand", so I see that they are good, but I hope he doesn't stop there. (edited for clarity)
Thanks for the info so far. You recommendations for “Fretboard Logic” are solid. I had a look at one of those at the book store. Then my brother, a guitarist with two music degrees, confirmed that “Fretboard Logic” idea, since it was the first thing he said we should get.
I just thought a video/DVD would be a nice, casual way to get started prior to lessons.

[CheshireCat]

Originally Posted by vicn

My expectations for my son are to get an introduction to guitar techniques and general information in a musical context. IOW, since he has played trumpet for 3 years and can play piano, he has a good foundation in music. Finger it “133xx” like somebody wrote is one of those sorta mechanical approaches that I don’t think is necessary. I want him to know about chord structure and changes and the like.
Thanks for the info so far. You recommendations for “Fretboard Logic” are solid. I had a look at one of those at the book store. Then my brother, a guitarist with two music degrees, confirmed that “Fretboard Logic” idea, since it was the first thing he said we should get.
I just thought a video/DVD would be a nice, casual way to get started prior to lessons.

Have him read Fretboard Logic SE thru a couple of times first, before getting the viddies. The viddies assume that you already have read the book and pick up where the book leaves off.

Chesh

[georgeo]

I would like to add that although FBL SE is an great guitar resource, make sure your son doesn't become discouraged when it takes him weeks to learn a page of the stuff. It takes me a long time to learn things in that book, and I am an experienced guitarist. Reading it right as he begins playing guitar will plant seeds of musicianship in him, but its not entirely realistic to expect to master that material, especially as a beginner.

[Saxophone]

Yes I agree with what's been said. However, that 133xxx is necessary and your son will be dealing with it at some point in his life so why not sooner? If you expose him to new ideas he will develop a more broader playing style and will have a firmer foundation. Just a thought.

[CheshireCat]

Originally Posted by georgeo

I would like to add that although FBL SE is an great guitar resource, make sure your son doesn't become discouraged when it takes him weeks to learn a page of the stuff. It takes me a long time to learn things in that book, and I am an experienced guitarist. Reading it right as he begins playing guitar will plant seeds of musicianship in him, but its not entirely realistic to expect to master that material, especially as a beginner.

Why do you think it takes you a long time to learn the material in the book? Breaking old habits and paradigms, perhaps? It my experience, it is a very simple, intuitive, and straightforward book.



Chesh

[georgeo]

Originally Posted by CheshireCat

Why do you think it takes you a long time to learn the material in the book? Breaking old habits and paradigms, perhaps? It my experience, it is a very simple, intuitive, and straightforward book.



Chesh

That was not the intention of my post. If a beginner started with only FBL SE, i hihgly doubt a love for the guitar would form for most people. What made guitar fun when i first started was learning my first song. After that, my teacher started me on scales and such.

[CheshireCat]

Originally Posted by georgeo

That was not the intention of my post. If a beginner started with only FBL SE, i hihgly doubt a love for the guitar would form for most people. What made guitar fun when i first started was learning my first song. After that, my teacher started me on scales and such.

And how is that counter to starting with FBL SE?

That's no different than starting with any other "method book", apart from the fact that those books will have such useful and popular ditties as "Michael Rode His Boat Ashore" and "Red River Valley". And who can forget that killer klassic "Polly-Wolly Doodle".

Yep, just the very tunes that todays kids are just itchin' to play!!

Truth be told, my love for Guitar started with FBL because that was the first time I actually had a clue what the heck was going on. Before that, even tho I had built one, I resisted learning how to play Guitar because it was just so confusing and crazy making. FBL marked the turning point where I actually got what the Guitar was about.

Major, major epiphany.

Chesh

[georgeo]

You shouldn't generalize that every instruction book and every teacher teaches such songs as "Red River Valley". My early guitar experiences were far from that.

FBL would be a great first guitar book. Definitely. But besides that, if i were a beginner, i would want instruction on hand position, fretting, etc, and i'd also like to be able to play a song(an application of what i was learning in FBL). I am not saying that FBL would be a bad beginners book.