[texandawg1288]

This is my first time to this section of the forums and I just started laughing. I'm reading all this junk about certain people mad about about (a christian) being in the white house and the war in Iraq. OK listen up if you don't like what this nation is doing, then LEAVE. Go to another country thats better than the United States, good look finding one. All the freedom we have, the money we have, finally got clinton out and a good christian in and all yall do is complain, makes me laugh. Some of yall aren't like this, so this isnt for you. But there is some of yall that just crack me up. I'm serious. I'm serious if you are gonna complain so much like little babies about what bush is doing and how the war is so evil, and defending ourslelfs is so wrong then find a better country. If yall don't remember all the people that were in Iraq that escaped to the U.S rejoiced when the found out that we were taking over and getting a better government for the Iraqi people. So like I said don't like it here, leave.

[RJ1]

I think it's time for another reality check. We are obligated to do something if we don't like what is going on in our country. To say "if you don't like it, then leave" is kind of ignorant. If people elect someone to an office, they expect that person to do a good job.

[JerryLove]

I'm reading all this junk about certain people mad about about posts on this BBS and people complaining about the president. OK listen up if you don't like what this BBS is doing, then LEAVE. Go to another BBS thats better than the CGR, good look finding one.

BTW, there has never been a non-Christian in the white-house.

All the freedom we have, the money we have, finally got clinton out and a good christian in and all yall do is complain, makes me laugh.

So are you complaining about our complaining? Or are you complaing about Clinton (who, BTW, did a far better job of giving freedom and money than bush has (read recession and patriot act)) while complaining that people shouldn't complain about the president?

I'm serious if you are gonna complain so much like little babies about what bush is doing and how the war is so evil, and defending ourslelfs is so wrong then find a better country.

Saddam has attacked US reasources flying over Iraqi airspace... but I'm unaware of Saddam attacking the US. You seem to be "complaining like a little baby".

If yall don't remember all the people that were in Iraq that escaped to the U.S rejoiced when the found out that we were taking over and getting a better government for the Iraqi people.

Some did... others keep explodoing themselves to kill us. Others are marching in the streets burning us in effigy. Others have armed themselves and are killing our troops.

Besides, I'm tired of paying subsidies of over 500,000,000 per year so that Iraqi's can buy gas at $.05 per gallon while mine is not only not subsidized, but actually taxed to pay for theirs.

[Travis]

Originally Posted by texandawg1288

This is my first time to this section of the forums and I just started laughing. I'm reading all this junk about certain people mad about about (a christian) being in the white house and the war in Iraq. OK listen up if you don't like what this nation is doing, then LEAVE.

Why? Did you leave when Clinton was in office doing things of which you disapproved? No. You spoke out against him, tried to convince others to lect someone else, and voted for someone else yourself (well, if you were over 18 at the time, which I doubt).

Oh, and by the way, if Bush is a Christian, why did he say what he's quoted as saying in my signature?

[Travis]

Originally Posted by JerryLove

I'm reading all this junk about certain people mad about about posts on this BBS and people complaining about the president. OK listen up if you don't like what this BBS is doing, then LEAVE. Go to another BBS thats better than the CGR, good look finding one.

Haha, owned.

Originally Posted by JerryLove

BTW, there has never been a non-Christian in the white-house.

There has probably never been a man who didn't profess Christianity in the White House, but actually I would wager that I could count the number of true Christians who've made it there on one hand (maybe it would have to spill over to two, but I doubt it).

Thomas Jefferson is a perfect counter-example to your claim. He was a deist who called the Bible a dung heap with a few gold nuggets scattered around inside of it. He then composed a Bible that removed everything he didn't like (including all miracles). By virtually any standard of orthodoxy, Jefferson is in hell.

[JerryLove]

http://www.heptune.com/preslist.html#religions

[Hopeful]

Originally Posted by Travis

Oh, and by the way, if Bush is a Christian, why did he say what he's quoted as saying in my signature?

I was just reading about this in the morning. Could it be that Arabs who are primarily Muslims claim their lineage back to Abraham through Ishmael? If Abraham worshipped only one God and Abraham is their father, it would make sense that Yahweh would be the same for Jews, Christians and Muslims. Now if he was talking about Jesus, that's a different story.

[texandawg1288]

haha this is fun

[SoccerAaron]

It'd be even more fun if you responded to them.

[texandawg1288]

So are you complaining about our complaining? Or are you complaing about Clinton (who, BTW, did a far better job of giving freedom and money than bush has (read recession and patriot act)) while complaining that people shouldn't complain about the president?


Clinton was on of the worst presidents, did you want someone who cheated on his wife in the office?? He did such a terrible job on everything


Saddam has attacked US reasources flying over Iraqi airspace... but I'm unaware of Saddam attacking the US. You seem to be "complaining like a little baby".



Saddam was treating people in his country very badly and was a evil guy so we took care of him.


Some did... others keep explodoing themselves to kill us. Others are marching in the streets burning us in effigy. Others have armed themselves and are killing our troops.


Oh i forgot about his army and his staff sorry!



Besides, I'm tired of paying subsidies of over 500,000,000 per year so that Iraqi's can buy gas at $.05 per gallon while mine is not only not subsidized, but actually taxed to pay for theirs.



Um I don't see you paying that amount of money. That money is used for that instead of sending it to help some crazy enviromenalist or something. And gas doesn't just come from Iraq. If we leave right now than their government may be worse than when we came over. We got to finish the job, operation endure freedom.

[texandawg1288]

I'm not complaining about when Clinton was in there, im just saying he was a bad president and going from him to bush made alot of things better. but instead complaing about it why not just pray instead. and bush had to deal with the choice of what to do with sept 11 and afgan and iraq, clinton didnt so who even knows what decision he would have made and what it could have costed us.

[PaidInFull]

Alot of ppl are blind to their own faults. If you will recap, this bastard (he had no father) Clinton was a horrible president. China now has the same missiles as the US because of Clinton, we lost the Panama Canal, the School Systems went haywire, he tryed to disarm the citizens, our military hated him, and then he knocked up Lewinsky. He lied about his military service, he comprimised our National Security (hince 9/11), and if you favore Clinton over Bush because of this 'war' please remember that Clinton bombed Hussien after Saddam stoped the WMD inspections, Clinton had NO PROOF of WMD but bombed Saddam anyways. So what, do you think, caused Saddam to get mad at the US of A???? Then he sent our troops to Bosnia, and watch Black Hawk Down to see how that went. Clinton reaped the benefits of the trickle-down-effect of the Reagan/Bush era, and now Bush is having to deal with the trickle-down-effect of Clintons goofs. All said, Bush hasn't been the BEST President, but he has done a very well job considering the past years. Kerry wouldn't now how to stop my sister from over running our country, he is a bufoon that can't make up his mind, and he's ugly .

[texandawg1288]

Originally Posted by se7enband

Alot of ppl are blind to their own faults. If you will recap, this bastard (he had no father) Clinton was a horrible president. China now has the same missiles as the US because of Clinton, we lost the Panama Canal, the School Systems went haywire, he tryed to disarm the citizens, our military hated him, and then he knocked up Lewinsky. He lied about his military service, he comprimised our National Security (hince 9/11), and if you favore Clinton over Bush because of this 'war' please remember that Clinton bombed Hussien after Saddam stoped the WMD inspections, Clinton had NO PROOF of WMD but bombed Saddam anyways. So what, do you think, caused Saddam to get mad at the US of A???? Then he sent our troops to Bosnia, and watch Black Hawk Down to see how that went. All said, Bush hasn't been the BEST President, but he has done a very well job considering the past years. Kerry wouldn't now how to stop my sister from over running our country, he is a bufoon that can't make up his mind, and he's ugly .

Amen

[Travis]

Originally Posted by texandawg1288

I'm not complaining about when Clinton was in there, im just saying he was a bad president

And that's what people are saying about Bush now. Enough with your hypocrisy.

[Travis]

Originally Posted by Hopeful

I was just reading about this in the morning. Could it be that Arabs who are primarily Muslims claim their lineage back to Abraham through Ishmael?

Could be; doesn't make it any less heretical and blasphemous.

Originally Posted by Hopeful

If Abraham worshipped only one God and Abraham is their father, it would make sense that Yahweh would be the same for Jews, Christians and Muslims. Now if he was talking about Jesus, that's a different story.

Allah is a false god--an idol--and all who worship him will suffer in eternal hell. The Christian God is a Trinue God--Father, Son, and Holy Spirit! Fail to worship even One of Three Persons of the Trinity and one will be worshiping another god entirely.

John 14:6-7a
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also.

John 15:23
Whoever hates me hates my Father also.

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.