Funny Christian History Songs

WooTang · 05-18-2004, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Aaron Adams

Did you sing it to the tune of "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"?

This reminds me of a song we sang in my Church History class at Southern Seminary called the Christological Hymn. Like to here it? Here it goes.

Super Christologogical and homoousios
Even though the sound of it is something quite atrocious
You can always count on it to amalgamate your gnosis
Super Christologogical and homoousios

Um-diddle-diddle-diddle-Um-diddle-aye
Etc.

**Athanasius** · 05-18-2004, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WooTang

This reminds me of a song we sang in my Church History class at Southern Seminary called the Christological Hymn. Like to here it? Here it goes.

Super Christologogical and homoousios
Even though the sound of it is something quite atrocious
You can always count on it to amalgamate your gnosis
Super Christologogical and homoousios

Um-diddle-diddle-diddle-Um-diddle-aye
Etc.

WooTang, can you get me the full lyrics to that? I'd love ya forever!

**+Donny** · 05-18-2004, 10:06 AM

I know they have a skit, but does Monty Python have a song for the Inquisition?

Lightknight · 05-18-2004, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ICTHUS

True, but the issue here is that she made a vow to God to keep her virginity intact. She broke it by marrying Luther.

Are you saying that God doesn't use the damned? Point and case, Balaam.

Heck, do you even realise just how much mess the early churches got into? Man, among the list is incest. How much lower can you get. And Yet God used those churches to make what we have today.

Lightknight · 05-18-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Athanasius

And Luther made the same vow when he was ordained. I guess they're double damned. The celibacy of the clergy is wrong in the eyes of the Protestant reformers...and further more not called for by the Bible.

Under the banner of Sola Scriptura, their consciences were cleared of the issue (ala Peter and food). If I vowed to God that I would forever eat only shell fish because my church says that's the way it's gotta be...and then I find out that His Word doesn't command such...I don't believe I'd be bound to that oath (and those who invented the teachings that made me take it would be held responsible)...

The point is that it wasn't "holy virginity", it was man-made religious bondage.

It's Katherina von Bora, BTW.

Yes, exactly.

By the way, what is the biblical virginity? I assure you, if you have been reading St. John Chrysostom's homilies you would know that the chief difference between a virgin and someone who is not one is the cares of this world. Sarah was considered a virgin, because her marriage was not one of fleshly desires. So, it is possible for Katy to marry Luther and not renounce her vows.

Lightknight · 05-18-2004, 01:34 PM

Athanasius still hasn't sung the song for us

ICTHUS · 05-18-2004, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Athanasius

Under the banner of Sola Scriptura, their consciences were cleared of the issue (ala Peter and food). If I vowed to God that I would forever eat only shell fish because my church says that's the way it's gotta be...and then I find out that His Word doesn't command such...I don't believe I'd be bound to that oath (and those who invented the teachings that made me take it would be held responsible)...

My point is she made a free choice to enter into that state of religious life, and made a vow to God that she would remain in that state. Only God can absolve her of that vow.

ICTHUS · 05-18-2004, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Athanasius

And Luther made the same vow when he was ordained. I guess they're double damned. The celibacy of the clergy is wrong in the eyes of the Protestant reformers...and further more not called for by the Bible.

1 Cor 7:1

Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry.[1]

Not called for the Bible, eh? I'd say "It is good for a man not to marry" is a pretty clear antithesis to that.

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Under the banner of Sola Scriptura, their consciences were cleared of the issue (ala Peter and food).

Let's turn that around. "Under the banner of Sola Scriptura, Modalists deny the Trinity.

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The point is that it wasn't "holy virginity", it was man-made religious bondage.

They made a choice, with their free will, to enter into that state. If they were forced at swordpoint to make that vow, then it would be bondage. There was no coercion, therefore it wasn't bondage.

**+Donny** · 05-18-2004, 10:34 PM

My guess would be that they were deceived into thinking that such a vow had biblical warrant. If it did not, then the vow/contract could be said to be illegitimate.

This should probably go to theology, though.

ICTHUS · 05-19-2004, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by +Donny

My guess would be that they were deceived into thinking that such a vow had biblical warrant. If it did not, then the vow/contract could be said to be illegitimate.

Actually, assuming people back then made vows of chastity for the same reason the modern Catholic Church does, it was to dedicate themselves more fully to the Lord's work. Also, St. Paul says that it is better for a man to remain unmarried, as shown above.

**+Donny** · 05-19-2004, 11:25 PM

He said so in regards to the then "present distress", the persecution of the Church. While it can be said to still be applicable in some cases (some people do not marry to have more time to serve the Church), 1 Corinthians 7's endorsement of unmarried life does not have the same widespread applicability in places where the Church is not persecuted like it was then (America, for example).

ICTHUS · 05-20-2004, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by +Donny

He said so in regards to the then "present distress", the persecution of the Church. While it can be said to still be applicable in some cases (some people do not marry to have more time to serve the Church), 1 Corinthians 7's endorsement of unmarried life does not have the same widespread applicability in places where the Church is not persecuted like it was then (America, for example).

*sigh* I will add, in finality, that Christ was celibate. Since the Christian priesthood act 'in persona Christi' to the people of God, it makes sense that they would emulate Christ in every way possible for their own ministry.

In closing, though, I would add that celibacy is not a doctrine of the Church, it is a discipline. It could be changed, although I doubt it would be since it's such an ancient discipline. Eastern Catholic priests may marry, although their bishops are always chosen from among the celibate.

**+Donny** · 05-20-2004, 06:18 PM

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*sigh* I will add, in finality, that Christ was celibate. Since the Christian priesthood act 'in persona Christi' to the people of God, it makes sense that they would emulate Christ in every way possible for their own ministry.

That argument makes no sense. We are all supposed to emulate Christ.

Furthermore, to what extend does this go?