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Old 04-12-2004, 07:23 PM   #1
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I'm not sure what Pentecostal heretic is preaching at "Winterfest" on TBN right now, but wow did I hear some blatant heresy.

"The Lord told me to tell you, the problem is the solution, if the flesh is what's got you into sin, then the flesh is the only thing that can get you out."

So we've found the solution to sin. We got ourselves into sin, so we have to get ourselves out. I guess we don't need God anymore .

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Old 04-12-2004, 07:38 PM   #2
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Old 04-12-2004, 07:46 PM   #3
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:32 PM   #4
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wow... yeah... normally what gets us in to trouble is NOT what gets us out.. I mean, what if lying got us into trouble? would we lie ourselves out of trouble?

either way, it's only God who can change us and get us out of anything.
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I would advise against crediting TBN with much of anything but heresy. They make claims, not all of which are bizarre, but claims that we as humans probably don't have the liberty of doing.

One noticeable thing we/they've forgotten is that it is God that saves, not man. Over time, we/they tend to do just as you say, and take God out of Christianity.
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Old 04-12-2004, 08:39 PM   #6
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I'm not sure what Pentecostal heretic is preaching at "Winterfest" on TBN right now, but wow did I hear some blatant heresy.
doesnt sound like something a pentecostal would say
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doesnt sound like something a pentecostal would say
I shall agree with this, most definitely.

Chris, are you implying many, or most, Pentecostals preach heresy? I hope not.
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It's strange...he almost had it, just add one more word and he's right: The Lord told me to tell you, the problem is the solution, if the flesh is what's got you into sin, then killing the flesh is the only thing that can get you out.
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umm... please, don't take TBN as an example of Pentecostals. They're... the special ones...
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It's strange...he almost had it, just add one more word and he's right: The Lord told me to tell you, the problem is the solution, if the flesh is what's got you into sin, then killing the flesh is the only thing that can get you out.
And the way to kill the flesh is through Jesus. So i'd like to say that Jesus is the answer. Not the flesh.
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Old 04-12-2004, 10:16 PM   #11
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I shall agree with this, most definitely.

Chris, are you implying many, or most, Pentecostals preach heresy? I hope not.
The man claimed to be a Pentecostal and he was preaching heresy, therefore he's a Pentacostal heretic.
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umm... please, don't take TBN as an example of Pentecostals. They're... the special ones...
This is very true... with any televangelists.

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Old 04-13-2004, 01:17 AM   #13
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The man claimed to be a Pentecostal and he was preaching heresy, therefore he's a Pentacostal heretic.
if i teach heresys that arent taught by my church.. why should my church get blamed?
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:24 AM   #14
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if i teach heresys that arent taught by my church.. why should my church get blamed?
Um, I don't recall blaming a church, all I said was the he was a Pentecostal and a heretic, thus a Pentecostal heretic, what does this have to do with his church?
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:25 AM   #15
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I think they just misunderstood what you meant.
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