04-10-2004, 10:44 PM
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#16 | | Registered User
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| I think maybe we have a denominational clash here...
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04-10-2004, 10:58 PM
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#17 | | power chord hater
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 2,808
| i think we have a biblical clash, what's up with this stuff?
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04-10-2004, 11:18 PM
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#18 | | Moderator
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| Its tought to call it biblical when no ones quoting scripture. |
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04-11-2004, 01:11 AM
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#19 | | likes pleasant suprises
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| ok what he means is background music that is played when people are worshiping after the song is over.. i ussualy just play something really simple like a I-V repeatedly and throw in a IV sometimes.. nothing really fancy, just background, simple, that doesnt draw any attention to you.. or you can do it just completley silent but for me that seems kinda awkward.. but it all depends on the church |
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04-11-2004, 06:28 AM
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#20 | | old & cranky
Joined: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Worth, TX Posts: 200
| My favorite thing about this forum is how thoughtless christianese gets pounced on. But let's try to be helpful rather than rude - the originator seems to have been run off. From Kaela's sig:
'On the necessary points, unity; on the questionable points, liberty; in everything, love.'
It is necessary to point out that worship is not only the Spirit-led spontaneous (everybody doing what they want to do) singing, but we should worship God in every activity of our lives. The appropriateness of this form of worship is questionable so it should not be ridiculed.
The bridge from a Blues Traveller tune was a good suggestion. Kaela should keep her ears open for nice progressions in the music she listens to (assuming this is a female).
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04-11-2004, 07:31 AM
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#21 | | The Chameleon
Joined: Aug 2002 Location: College Station, Texas Posts: 5,132
| Sorry, guys, that did probably come off as quite harsh. Thanks for the reminder, thud  I guess I've just grown a new pet peeve over the while... and it's one that I don't need to have.
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04-12-2004, 03:08 AM
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#22 | | Registered User
Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 26
| Hey I think some people are right when they say there's a denominational clash......look i didn't mean to offend anyone. But i'm not strange and neither is my church however I do think that some of you guys/girls have come off a bit rude!!! but I'd like to thank akshay and thud for actually understanding!!!!!
And those of u who thought I was weird-----------I forgive you. I really thought that as Christians we shouldn't judge others!!!!
God Bless YOu all.
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04-12-2004, 05:08 AM
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#23 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by Kaela4Jesus Hey I think some people are right when they say there's a denominational clash......look i didn't mean to offend anyone. | I doubt anyone was offended by statements. Quote: |
But i'm not strange and neither is my church
| I don't believe anyone claimed they were. I simply have no idea what you're talking about, and I have reservations about whether it could be a good idea. Quote: |
however I do think that some of you guys/girls have come off a bit rude!!!
| One of the problems with a internet communication is that its very easy to read meaning into someones posts. No one here has intended to attack you personally. Quote: |
but I'd like to thank akshay and thud for actually understanding!!!!!
| .....your holding the fact that I don't know what your talking about against me? I'm sorry I don't understand? Quote: |
And those of u who thought I was weird-----------I forgive you. I really thought that as Christians we shouldn't judge others!!!!
| I re-read the thread...and not a single person judged you personally. No one called you weird or strange. Disagreeing with you isn't a personal attack against you. Applying the "judge not..." argument here is a gross mis-use of scripture. |
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04-12-2004, 10:23 AM
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#24 | | Registered User
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Originally Posted by Shredcheddar Sorry, guys, that did probably come off as quite harsh. Thanks for the reminder, thud  I guess I've just grown a new pet peeve over the while... and it's one that I don't need to have. | Yes, it did come off as quite harsh. Apology accepted however.
The term "spontaneous worship" (in the context of doing so with instruments) doesn't connotate anything other than helpling facilitate worship (after all we ARE worship leaders) by playing instruments unto the Lord with no scripted words to sing to. Simply put, following a chord pattern while others pray, speak out praise to God, and verbalize their worship to God in their own words (vs. singing out of a hymnal or powerpoint). I don't understand why this suddenly seems so foreign. |
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04-12-2004, 01:29 PM
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#25 | | likes pleasant suprises
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| i think what he found rude was that you were critzing how he worded his post instead of just answering the question.. but then again most of you didnt understand the question.. so there are faults at both ends.. |
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04-12-2004, 01:36 PM
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#26 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by ryanspeer The term "spontaneous worship" (in the context of doing so with instruments) doesn't connotate anything other than helpling facilitate worship (after all we ARE worship leaders) by playing instruments unto the Lord with no scripted words to sing to. Simply put, following a chord pattern while others pray, speak out praise to God, and verbalize their worship to God in their own words (vs. singing out of a hymnal or powerpoint). I don't understand why this suddenly seems so foreign. | What you described doesn't seem like that big of a stretch. I wouldn't do it in great amounts for the sake of orderly worship. Further, I'd be against any charismatic practices entering. What put me off to the initial comment was the way the person phrased. It was something like "We sing and THEN we worship." The way that was phrased got my wheels turning. |
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04-12-2004, 01:39 PM
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#27 | | Moderator
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Originally Posted by Akshay626 i think what he found rude was that you were critzing how he worded his post instead of just answering the question.. but then again most of you didnt understand the question.. so there are faults at both ends.. | Criticizing how a post is worded can be a good thing. ...and makes sense if we don't understand the question. When someone clearly states that "worship" follows after singing, that phrasing needs both criticing and clarifcation as to what is being talked about. |
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04-12-2004, 01:39 PM
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#28 | | likes pleasant suprises
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| i think what he meant by that was.. "we sing and then we worship w/out singing.." lol not "we sing and then we started to worship" |
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04-12-2004, 01:43 PM
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#29 | | Moderator
Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 22,493
| ....of course, we should always be worshipping, but I SERIOUSLY HOPE the person meant "We worship with song, and then with music and no organized singing." |
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04-12-2004, 01:55 PM
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#30 | | likes pleasant suprises
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,194
| well i think s/he did, or rather i hope.. |
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