The Passion of Catholicism?

gods_plan1999 · 03-02-2004, 07:41 PM

Can anybody try to prove to me why this movie is good? It's clearly a roman catholic film. If you don't believe me search it out yourself, then type a response. Look up catherine emmerich. She has great influence on this film, she suffered from what is called "stigmata". This is not an opinion it is the Truth.

barefooter · 03-02-2004, 07:48 PM

You are right. I hate Catholics. They are terrible people.

...of course the film is a Catholic film! Geeze! I'm still going to see it.

gods_plan1999 · 03-02-2004, 07:50 PM

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You are right. I hate Catholics. They are terrible people.

...of course the film is a Catholic film! Geeze! I'm still going to see it.

I did see it. it is GROSSLY wrong, too many points to make right now, but perhaps in thje morning I will.........

BereanatHeart · 03-02-2004, 07:50 PM

Just because it was made by RCs doesn't mean it is a RC film, actually, I don't think Mel is even Roman Catholic. The only thing that I could find in the movie that seemed at all Catholic was when John reffered to Mary as Mother before Jesus gave Mary to be his Mother. Other than that it was pretty acurate.

-Pasquale

barefooter · 03-02-2004, 07:56 PM

I know that the writer drew from non-biblical sources that had taken some dramatic license, but so has every passion play that I've ever seen. Furthermore, aside from the stations of the cross, I don't see a whole lot of theological objections that you could raise.

Mike Graham · 03-02-2004, 07:57 PM

Yes, I was struck and very distracted by the Roman Catholic element of the movie. I would not try to prove to anyone that any movie is good, though, and your ad hominem on Catherine Emmerich proves nothing.

Mike Graham · 03-02-2004, 08:02 PM

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Just because it was made by RCs doesn't mean it is a RC film, actually

No, but in this case it was, and I do not know how so many evangelicals do not get it.

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I don't think Mel is even Roman Catholic.

He kind of is. He does not affirm Vatican II.

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The only thing that I could find in the movie that seemed at all Catholic was when John reffered to Mary as Mother before Jesus gave Mary to be his Mother.

And when Peter confessed to her,c alling her Mother (I do not recall when John did it.)

And how closely Mary was followed (both the non-biblical flashbacks I can remember were of her and Jesus, and she was there almost all the movie)

And the fact that they went through all the stations of the cross (expect for the 10th, for obvious reasons)

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Other than that it was pretty acurate.

It definately took a lot of license from the gospel, this is not denyable. Virtually all was in a decidedly Catholic direction.

BereanatHeart · 03-02-2004, 08:06 PM

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And the fact that they went through all the stations of the cross (expect for the 10th, for obvious reasons)

What are all of the "stations" of the cross?

Mike Graham · 03-02-2004, 08:08 PM

Here is the first result of a google search:

http://www.creighton.edu/Collaborati.../stations.html

BereanatHeart · 03-02-2004, 08:28 PM

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Here is the first result of a google search:

http://www.creighton.edu/Collaborati.../stations.html

Thanks,

What exactly was wrong with following that pattern?

I do realize that there are some Catholic themes (as you mentioned with Mary,) but do you think that's enough not to go see it?

nullifygurl · 03-02-2004, 08:48 PM

this movie was made for catholicism but there fore the only main focus is on Jesus christ.. i watched it.. and was touched.. at first when i heard mel gibson was catholic and when he made this movie.. i first heard it on ET during November.. but.. it doesn't matter.. all it matters was that the Holy spirit moves and to witness such a graphic movie.. to the hard extreme .... our Christ was tortued and from the movie.. Mel Gibson is just showing things that really happen according to the gospels.. he might of added some things but.. the purpose to show how much Jesus has layed down his life and took all the sufferings i mean Jesus could of Died some other way .. To me Mary in the movie isn't holy and divine.. but she plays as a mother that loves her son and knows his destiny.. catholics or not.. i think this movie only focuses through Christ's passion ( to love and to suffer) it has made me want to be a better christian... shows how much Jesus was willing to take all the sufferings of my pathetic self..
i read in the gospel of John Jesus did address to John when he was hanging on the cross that Mary was the mother.. but.. i dont' take it as "virgin Mary" i take at it as respect the woman who gave birth to the son of man..
to those who have seen the movies.. could of been angry iwth the storylines or how it was depict.. but.. many of those who watched it changed their life.. it certainly changed mine.. its just different perspectives..
this movie is moving through the box office and people's mind.. and there's no doubt that this movie is powerful..

Mike Graham · 03-02-2004, 08:55 PM

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What exactly was wrong with following that pattern?

I do not know that there is anythign expressly wrong with it, but it is clealy an element of Catholic influence.

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I do realize that there are some Catholic themes (as you mentioned with Mary,) but do you think that's enough not to go see it?

I don't recall claiming that nobody should see it.

Jonular · 03-02-2004, 09:00 PM

Uh, I'm trying to decide where to move this. I'm thinking the Catholic forum. It could go in movies or Theology. I'm not sure.

~Jon

nix · 03-02-2004, 09:18 PM

Good choice of move

**Sean** · 03-02-2004, 09:51 PM

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Can anybody try to prove to me why this movie is good?

I dont' think I could prove any film is good. Since we're talking about art, thats very strange concept.

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It's clearly a roman catholic film. If you don't believe me search it out yourself, then type a response.

Its clearly made by a Roman Catholic. It clearly has Roman Catholic influence. However, I wouldn't say any of the Roman Catholic influence should cause any great distress to a PROTESTant.

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Look up catherine emmerich. She has great influence on this film, she suffered from what is called "stigmata". This is not an opinion it is the Truth.

Thats too bad.