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Unread 02-22-2004, 02:31 AM   #76
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Where the truss rod is supposed to be in filled in with rosewood, but I also don't bellieve that it can be seen at the heel either. Here's the guitar www.fender.com/products/show.php?partno=0131002

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Unread 02-22-2004, 09:28 AM   #77
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Where the truss rod is supposed to be in filled in with rosewood, but I also don't bellieve that it can be seen at the heel either. Here's the guitar www.fender.com/products/show.php?partno=0131002
Weeeelllllll . . . . yeah. Actually, it's supposed to look like that . . . kinda.

That was one of Leo's experiementations. Remember, he was a latter-day Luthier, so not everything he did was that practical when he first started in terms of day-to-day concerns, tho he got progressively better and more innovative. However, for nostalgia purposes, that convention stuck.

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Unread 02-22-2004, 12:04 PM   #78
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It is there. It is on the guitar end of the neck.

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It is there. It is on the guitar end of the neck.

What's up with that neck!?! Is that fretboard a veneer!?!



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Unread 02-22-2004, 12:22 PM   #80
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Yeah, Fender started that in 1962.
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Yeah, Fender started that in 1962.
What, the veneer fretboard!?!

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Fender used a slab rosewood board until late 1962 when they started to use the veneer board. I am not sure when they went back to the flat bottom slab but I suspect it was around the time they went back to small headstock in the early 80s.
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Fender used a slab rosewood board until late 1962 when they started to use the veneer board. I am not sure when they went back to the flat bottom slab but I suspect it was around the time they went back to small headstock in the early 80s.
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What's up with that neck!?! Is that fretboard a veneer!?!
If memory serves me correctly, it is not a veneer, per se. The rosewood started out as a slab and was machined (radiused) on the bottom to match the the radius of the maple neck, it was then glued on and later radiused on the surface. I think I read that in a Dan Erlewine article in GP, or somewhere... It stuck in my mind 'cause it seemed strange. Veneer would not work well anyway, the grain would split due to being "wrapped" around the radius.
I don't remember if the reason was mentioned why Fender used this method, but the bottom line would be that a rosewood "veneer" on a maple neck would sound more like an all maple neck - rosewood darkens the sound. My 1964 strat has the rosewood veneer neck.
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If memory serves me correctly, it is not a veneer, per se. The rosewood started out as a slab and was machined (radiused) on the bottom to match the the radius of the maple neck, it was then glued on and later radiused on the surface. I think I read that in a Dan Erlewine article in GP, or somewhere... It stuck in my mind 'cause it seemed strange. Veneer would not work well anyway, the grain would split due to being "wrapped" around the radius.
I don't remember if the reason was mentioned why Fender used this method, but the bottom line would be that a rosewood "veneer" on a maple neck would sound more like an all maple neck - rosewood darkens the sound. My 1964 strat has the rosewood veneer neck.
Well, technically, any lumber that is thinner than 0.25" is considered a veneer. I was just referring to the rather scant amount of wood that they used.

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Right, but it didn't start out as a veneer... Like I said, I remembered that story 'cause it seemed like a convoluted way to get 1/16" or so of rosewood on there...
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Right, but it didn't start out as a veneer... Like I said, I remembered that story 'cause it seemed like a convoluted way to get 1/16" or so of rosewood on there...
Well, yeah, I understand that. I just thought it was tacky nonetheless. A lot of trouble to make a substandard (IMHO) instrument.

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Unread 02-23-2004, 06:13 PM   #89
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I know very little about Fender but this seems like something that was done to cut cost, I could and probley am wrong but thats what it sounds like to me.
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I have never read the reason why they did that. It happened in '62 though which was still under Leo's watch. I would believe that if it was CBS but....I am not so sure. It certainly could be true. I will dig though some of my history books.
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