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Old 09-11-2001, 04:23 PM   #1
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to rock or not to rock?

Aaaaaarrrrggghhh!!!!!!!

this huge debate about rock music in general is from the devil is driving me insane!!!!!
soo....to rock christian, (or should we skip it because its likeness to the "world")?
or to rock secular....(besides, if you never listen to the words...)
or ...no rock?should we go all praise and worship????
i didnt want to make a poll, so excuuuuse me but i am just so peeved off if- i can say that- about the whole thing. i like rock music and i like heavy metal and i dont know if i really should care but its driving me up the wall for cruds sake. should God care if we worship him in different ways? what about the SO CALLED christian artists who give other ccm artists bad names? aaaarrrrghhh!!!!
* steam blowing out my ears!*
so rock...or not to rock?
what about the anti rockers!!!!!???
please give me some advice cuz i dont really know .


...sorry there. i get a little carried away sometimes.

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Old 09-11-2001, 05:08 PM   #2
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Re: to rock or not to rock?

Um, I don't see anything wrong with rock as a genre. Do you think it is the music that edifies or brings down or the words, because I would say generally the words are far more significant. They are what makes a song Christian or secular, after all.
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okay, luke, so what's your opinion on a song that has no words, by a secular artist?
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Well, if you read the secular worship thread, you'll see most of the people's views on secular music.

I would sum it up like this, if the music does NOT bring God glory, then it's wrong. Yes, I do believe some secular music can glorify God, considering the lifestyles of the artists and the lyrics of their music (ex. Lifehouse). I personally prefer Christian music, the style's irrelevant. I don't care how hard the rock is, if the artist is Christian, and their goal is to glorify God then it is good.

And if I know Luke, he'd say the same thing .
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I couldn't have said it better!!!! As a matter of fact, i probably wouldn't have even thought of that! -Adam
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okay, luke, so what's your opinion on a song that has no words, by a secular artist?
I find Beethoven wonderful for helping me get to sleep.

On a more serious note, my concern is definitely the glorification of God in all things, both in the artist and in you. But I'm not going to condemn all secular music because it can be used for God's glory.

A good standard is Romans 14:23 -- "Whatever does not come from faith is sin." What that means in English is that if it's not done with God in mind, in glad submission of God to glorify Him, it's sin.
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Old 09-11-2001, 10:18 PM   #7
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Chris Harbison,

Ok, so you are saying that ANY music that doesn't glorify God is wrong?

If we think along that line, then almost all classical music is wrong.

I agree with you that secular music can glorify God. When you say all music that doens't do this is wrong, it seems too broad a statement to me.

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Most of the classical composers were Christians, though.
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Old 09-12-2001, 12:31 PM   #9
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no they werent. someone said mozart beat his wife, but i think its all bunk.
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I said "most". I don't know about Mozart. But Bach, Beethoven, and Handel all (probably) were.
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ok im not even in on this site or anything i was just checking it out when i stubbled across this question...im into hardcore music (extol,zao,living sacrific,etc...) and at first my parents and i really had a hard battle about it untill i sat them down and really explained to them that there is a difference between passion and anger... i let them read the lyrics and such and its all settled... i dont listen to music that isnt glorifying to God.... i beleave my music is....the lyrics have a christ focus and bring glory and honor to him... the beat may be hard but hey thats awesome that there can be this type of music that honors God....some ppl say oh well the black nail polish and such or like the bands t-shirts always being black is a problem but i dont think so, there is usually a look to go along with the music if that black T is proclaiming christ then hey let em be...... there are so many teens that are "angry" and are turning to secular music for answers...this type of christian music can be a answer for them...a witness...anyways i dont even know if this all makes sense but i beleave that it can glorify God...
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Lori,

You hit the nail on the head. The type of music doesn't matter, as long as it is pleasing to God, there is nothing wrong with the type of music.

Also, you are so right when you say that teens are turning to secular music for answers, all you need to do is listen to Crawling by Linkin Park and there is no doubt left.

But even if music is secular, it can be used to reach people. Groups like U2 and even the Beatles wrote some things with lyrics that Christians can be proud of.

If we think about it, we can use anything to please God, even secuar music.
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thnx ryan, i was kinda worried about my first entry lol! im new to this and im now registered!!im a hardcore fan of the beatles lol they rock.. altho some of the later stuff eh...kinda edgy lol ... i urge you all to jump into whatever kind of music you like beleave me there are christian bands out there for your style dont compromise on the secular, search for a God glorifying band to fall in love with ...God bless
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Old 09-12-2001, 05:24 PM   #14
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the group' justifide' really rocks too.

thanx everybody for your advice. i guess i should just try and deal with certain ppl.
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i wuz in a doctor's office the other day readin a magazine while i waited and there was this editorial in a Newsweek speakin out against some article Newsweek ran about Christian music. loosely quoted, she said "rock and roll is the devil's music and nothing can ever change it."

after reading this, i almost fell outta my chair laughing... but thats a whole 'nother story

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