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03-29-2004, 06:31 PM
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#151 | | The People's Super Moderator
Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Aldergrove, BC, Canada Posts: 14,780
| I am not the definer of moral truth.
Throughout history, man has assumed that since God or gods exist, there must be some sort of morality. Morality was deduced from the existence of God or fods. The mistake was when we decided that God could then be deduced from morality. It is then assume we can know and create morality apart from God, leaving plenty of room for someone to step in and say, "We don't need God" and deduce from morality, or rather, immorality, that there is no God.
The truth is, I cannot define morality for myself. My judgement just isn't good enough to know what's best for myself and for humanity in general. I cannot find morality on my own and argue for God's existence on that basis. I can only let go of this foolish mind, which wouldn't know reason if it slapped me in the face with a glove and challenged me to a duel, let go of this foolish self and embrace the existence of God. Only then does morality come into being, purpose and meaning finally making sense.
But even then, as reason becomes reasonable, we look back and think "I knew it all along." And we crash. We reverse the process. We place morality, reason, purpose and meaning prior to God's revelation, trying to deduce God through tools that only exist by His existence. We glorify the feeble human mind that owes its very existence to God's mercy and grace.
Lord have mercy, Christ have mercy.
Psalm 86:3. |
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03-30-2004, 02:45 AM
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#152 | | ideomancer & ailurian (貓)
Joined: Aug 2003 Location: in viis mileti Posts: 9,349
| My morality is subjective and shifts to preserve my comfort. |
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03-30-2004, 03:28 AM
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#153 | | enjoys reading
Joined: Aug 2003 Location: in Jesus' heart. Posts: 3,863
| I've had some pretty interesting arguments/debates with unbelievers that have definitely tested my patience. I especially hate when they put words in your mouth that you have never spoken... even more so when you specifically outlined your opinion/belief multiple times, and they still blanket you with an ignorant, stereotypical remark. Then I have to try and be nice? Man, it is very VERY tough.
ps: WHOO, 5 posts in here, now! haha |
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03-30-2004, 03:30 AM
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#154 | | ideomancer & ailurian (貓)
Joined: Aug 2003 Location: in viis mileti Posts: 9,349
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Originally Posted by the flamingo I've had some pretty interesting arguments/debates with unbelievers that have definitely tested my patience. I especially hate when they put words in your mouth that you have never spoken... even more so when you specifically outlined your opinion/belief multiple times, and they still blanket you with an ignorant, stereotypical remark. Then I have to try and be nice? Man, it is very VERY tough. | Pfft, that's just like Rakel to say that. You're always hating minorities. |
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03-30-2004, 04:59 AM
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#155 | | The People's Super Moderator
Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Aldergrove, BC, Canada Posts: 14,780
| Non-Christians are a minority? |
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03-30-2004, 05:13 AM
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#156 | | The People's Super Moderator
Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Aldergrove, BC, Canada Posts: 14,780
| Skeeter's Top 20 Songs
01. "Thief" - Our Lady Peace
02. "Only In Dreams" - Weezer
03. "Lost the Plot" - Newsboys
04. "Amy's Song" - Switchfoot
05. "Paranoid Android" - Radiohead
06. "Get Your Riot Gear" - Five Iron Frenzy
07. "In a World Called Catastrophe" - Matthew Good
08. "Naveed" - Our Lady Peace
09. "Chem. 6a" - Switchfoot
10. "Surfwax America" - Weezer
11. "The Grudge" - Tool
12. "Narcolepsy" - Third Eye Blind
13. "Wedding Dress" - Derek Webb
14. "El Scorcho" - Weezer
15. "You, Me, and the Weather" - Hawksley Workman
16. "Where Have All the Good Peopl Gone?" - Sam Roberts
17. "Money" - Pink Floyd
18. "4 AM" - Our Lady Peace
19. "Lights Out" - Newsboys
20. "Paper Shoes" - Hawksley Workman |
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03-30-2004, 10:32 AM
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#157 | | enjoys reading
Joined: Aug 2003 Location: in Jesus' heart. Posts: 3,863
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Originally Posted by Starboard Wake Pfft, that's just like Rakel to say that. You're always hating minorities. |
Well at least I am not of the lynching persuasion. |
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03-30-2004, 10:46 AM
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#158 | | can see clearly now Super Moderator
Joined: Aug 2003 Location: State of Grace Posts: 20,726
| I've got some rope and there's a big tree outside.... |
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03-30-2004, 11:36 AM
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#159 | | ideomancer & ailurian (貓)
Joined: Aug 2003 Location: in viis mileti Posts: 9,349
| You don't screw with BIKER LEE! |
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03-30-2004, 01:53 PM
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#160 | | to begin again
Joined: Sep 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,894
| Let me tell you something about Bill Brasky. He stands about eight foot eleven. He wears a sharkskin jacket made out of sharks that he killed with nothing but a pair of tweezers. He eats tires for breakfast to save the environment. He killed a man with nothing but a cold stare. I once saw him get shot out of a makeshift circus cannon that he made with nothing but a used toilet paper roll, a rubber band, a paper clip, and his iron will power. Bill Brasky is my father! TO BILL BRASKY!!!
__________________ Just sunshine and blue sky, is this all we get for living here?
Last edited by fiveminuteplan; 03-30-2004 at 04:29 PM.
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03-30-2004, 04:24 PM
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#161 | | ideomancer & ailurian (貓)
Joined: Aug 2003 Location: in viis mileti Posts: 9,349
| Bill Brasky served four tours of duty in 'Nam. Made a lot of friends. A couple years ago I was eating at a Vietnamese restaurant, and my waiter was over seven feet tall! When I paid the check, I asked his name - sure enough, Ho Chan Brasky!
TO BILL BRASKY |
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03-30-2004, 05:00 PM
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#162 | | The People's Super Moderator
Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Aldergrove, BC, Canada Posts: 14,780
| But what about me... |
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03-30-2004, 05:56 PM
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#163 | | The People's Super Moderator
Joined: Sep 2002 Location: Aldergrove, BC, Canada Posts: 14,780
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03-30-2004, 11:52 PM
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#164 | | ideomancer & ailurian (貓)
Joined: Aug 2003 Location: in viis mileti Posts: 9,349
| Skeeter Daniel once carried an entire brood of tadpoles from dry ground to the creek in his mouth! He once set fire to a limo just to have enough light to read Ziggy at night! He once wrestled a bear to the ground and forced it in fact growl out "Skeeter Dan." I mean, it wasn't perfect, but you could tell what it was saying. Skeeter Dan once spent two weeks straight wide awake in Graceland! Skeeter Dan was invited to sing the Canadian National Anthem...at the World Cup Championship!  TO SKEETER DANIEL!!! |
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03-31-2004, 12:37 AM
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#165 | | to begin again
Joined: Sep 2003 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,894
| Skeeter's hair is so strong that he is often seen letting people down it out of burning buildings. He wrestled an alligator in front of a crowd of people not for fame or money, but for the love of wrestling alligators. Skeeter is a man's man; why, he's been known to father children simply from a strong handshake. Skeeter, in fact, wrote the whole of The Beatles classic White Album, but let the fab four have it because "They seemed like nice fellas." TO SKEETER!
__________________ Just sunshine and blue sky, is this all we get for living here?
Last edited by fiveminuteplan; 05-03-2004 at 08:07 AM.
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