Mixers?

DarylB · 01-29-2004, 11:19 AM

I'm looking into buying a small mixer for myself here at come and small stuff. 6-8 tracks with a few mic in's so that i could record drums if i wanted to. I want it to be fairly versatile also, what are some of your suggestions. I've looked at the

Behringer Eurorack UB1202 Mixer

and the

Behringer Eurorack UB1204-PRO Mixer

What do you think of those two? Also with the 1202, would i need an amp because it doesnt' have phantom power or what? I'm very uneducated in all of this so any info you can give me would be awesome. One of the things i would like to do with this mixer is have it at home here so that when people come over to play (i dont have an official band yet but yah say like a band) then we could mix the guitars and have a mic or two and stuff. I would also like the ability to mix drums and record and mic guitar amps and record to pc. Thanks for any help you can offer!

DarylB · 01-29-2004, 11:22 AM

Also what do you think of Powered Mixers

Guitar MC · 01-29-2004, 11:54 AM

The 1202 DOES have phantom power. Did something it said lead you to believe it didnt? The 1204 has faders instead of knows for the volume on each track and i think thats about the only difference. If thats worth the oxtra money then go for that, but I am happy with the 1202. As for powered mixers, those are for running a PA, not something you would need.

-Trey

DarylB · 01-29-2004, 11:56 AM

Okay, so if i want to run the PA then i need a power amp between my mixer and the speakers? Or could i run a pair of speakers straight off my mixer

Guitar MC · 01-29-2004, 12:14 PM

You either need a power amp or and passive speakers or powered speakers.

-Trey

DarylB · 01-29-2004, 12:15 PM

Ok, thanks, i'd rep you but hey i can't so here some rep

*reps*

DarylB · 01-29-2004, 12:17 PM

Also, any other possibilities besides the Behringers... (in the same $$ range also)

Guitar MC · 01-29-2004, 12:21 PM

Behringer are definalty the best for the price. I dont think you will find any for a better price and if you do they probobly arent very good. Now if i had closer to $1000 to spend on this, I would get nicer stuff, but for the price these are really good.

-Trey

Forever His · 01-29-2004, 04:29 PM

Our worship team uses a Behringer mixing board and we are happy with it. Model 3204??? Nice unit! One thing to be careful of is to mount it in a rack if possable or anything to ensure that you never drop it etc. as these units are not as tough as a Mackie would be.

Forever His

PianoMan · 01-29-2004, 05:45 PM

As a sound tech at church, I would highly recommend spending the extra for the PRO. The sliders make fine tuning much easier, and from what I can see, it adds stereo possibilities - very nice feature if you know how to use it.

Guitar MC · 01-29-2004, 06:03 PM

Yeah, the sliders are nice for live sound, but I dont think they are that big of a deal for recording. If anything the knobs are less likey to get pumped out of position. Also, I wouldnt recomend using anything this small as a PA, but thats just my opinion. What are the stereo posibilities your talking about PianoMan? I dont see anything that makes it any more stereo capale than the other one. I didnt want to spend the exta $40 for sliders so I just got the 1202.

-Trey

emo_boy · 01-29-2004, 07:16 PM

I really like behringer stuff. My church has one of their smaller boards that they use for putting on puppet shows and it works really well.
Do you have speakers to go with this? A power amp? Without these a mixer will be practically useless, unless of course you want to record drums to one track. If you think you're gonna play with a band then you'll probably want a few more xlr inputs. If you figure 1 for bass, 1 for guitar maybe 2, 1 for the vocals, then if you wanna mic drums then you'll need probably 3 or 4. The behringer UB2222FX-PRO looks like something that would better suit a full band.

PianoMan · 01-29-2004, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Guitar MC

Yeah, the sliders are nice for live sound, but I dont think they are that big of a deal for recording. If anything the knobs are less likey to get pumped out of position. Also, I wouldnt recomend using anything this small as a PA, but thats just my opinion. What are the stereo posibilities your talking about PianoMan? I dont see anything that makes it any more stereo capale than the other one. I didnt want to spend the exta $40 for sliders so I just got the 1202.

If you take a closer look, you see that the 1204 has 2 master volume sliders. These can actually be used for one of two things. You can make it master volume controls, with one being left and the other right (stereo) or (not sure if this unit can do it, but the Mackie I work with does) you can assign each slider to a different function - such as one for master vocals and one for master instrumentals.

I also took a second look at them, and it also looks like the PRO gives either a few more EQ options, or some open volume spots for individual channels (like individual volume controls for effects, moniters, etc.)

Again, if I am right in these assumptions, then I would highly recommend putting down the extra money - you will get a lot more for it.

Guitar MC · 01-30-2004, 07:32 AM

The PRO does have one more FX send than the other. Also, your right about the stereo thing, but thats not somthing that would make a lot of sense to use live becuase to adjust it like that you would have to pan all the vocals to one side and the instruments to the other. The PRO does have some extra stuff, but for recording, they are not nescesary in my opinion.

-Trey

PianoMan · 01-30-2004, 09:20 AM

No its not nessesary, but if you have the extra $40, then I would recommend getting the PRO so you can have some extra options later on. The 1202 would do just fine though.