Exorcise this demon!

Gracie Love · 01-26-2004, 01:34 AM

I was talking about my church in particular but I do believe we are all brothers and sisters in Christ no matter the differences in belief.

I keep everybody here in my prayers everyday. I pray for those of you that wish to go to seminary next fall will get to go and with favor. I really do love all of my brothers and sisters in Christ. I just we treated each other better at times.

God bless.

Thespia · 01-26-2004, 02:19 AM

People have said in this thread that charismatics are the only ones who deal with demon affliction. I'm Baptist, and I deal with demon oppression all the time. I constantly have to fight it off! In my attitude and my mind...just as my boyfriend! He has seen me under demonic attack. I'm not trying to freak anyone out but its very real and it has to be dealt with. Satan is a very crafty enemy, and he deals with people where he knows they are weak. Why would he not try to get at people where they are weakest?

For example...Charismatics sometimes have a reputation for giving too much credit to demons..."looking for a demon under every rock", if you may. Why would he not show up exactly how they want him to, then? If Satan can take their focus off Christ, and try to get it on other things, (like trying to cast out demons, talking about demons, becoming obsessed with these kinds of things)...he will! Satan loves the attention!

On the other hand...Presbyterians (just for example) don't get caught up in all that "over-emotionalism" and things like that that those Charismatics do. They are sensible in their own right, How would Satan attack here? In attitudes? In lack of freedom in worship? Problems in the church staff? (I really am guessing here...its been a long time since I've been around a Presbyterian church).

My point is...Satan is very real, and he isnt' stupid. He uses the situation and comes up with a careful strategy of attack. We cannot deny that the enemy is real. When people are "in the flesh" instead of the Spirit...are they losing the Spirit of Christ temporarily? Is it not strong enough? Or are they perhaps under attack by spiritual forces?

C.S. Lewis said in Screwtape Letters that the 2 weaknesses of people in dealing with demons is that they 1. Have too much interest in them or 2. Have too little, giving them no credibility at all

Satan will attack from one of these angles. Which side are you vulnerable on?

**slap_j** · 01-26-2004, 02:45 AM

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C.S. Lewis said in Screwtape Letters that the 2 weaknesses of people in dealing with demons is that they 1. Have too much interest in them or 2. Have too little, giving them no credibility at all

Satan will attack from one of these angles. Which side are you vulnerable on?

I am not sure about demons really, although I am not saying they do not oppress/possess etc.

I am just wondering how you can distinguish demonic attacks from any other thing -- including stress, fatigue, mental disorders, etc.

Since the bible doesn't give us much info on the matter I am thinking that it might not be prudent to assume demonic attack over something more earthly.

EleventhHour · 01-26-2004, 02:39 PM

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I am not sure about demons really, although I am not saying they do not oppress/possess etc.

I am just wondering how you can distinguish demonic attacks from any other thing -- including stress, fatigue, mental disorders, etc.

Since the bible doesn't give us much info on the matter I am thinking that it might not be prudent to assume demonic attack over something more earthly.

Pray for a spirit of discernment?

ChrisHarbison · 01-26-2004, 03:23 PM

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People have said in this thread that charismatics are the only ones who deal with demon affliction.

I clarified this to Bill via PM. The reason I said what I said, is because you don't see Baptist churches excorsising "demons of depression" or "Infidelity, the Demon of Sexual Sin" and such. (Yes, I've seen crap like this before on such crap as TBN) Now granted, TBN gives the Charasmatic church a bad name as I'm sure alot of them aren't like TBN. This is what I'm so against, to blame one's depression, infidelity, whatever on a demon is just silly.

**slap_j** · 01-26-2004, 08:42 PM

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Pray for a spirit of discernment?

For Demon-Vision?!

Dr. Doom · 01-26-2004, 10:07 PM

On HD TV!!!

Gracie Love · 01-26-2004, 11:00 PM

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For Demon-Vision?!

Discernment is not just about whether or not you see a demon. It helps you determine when someone is lying, see someone's calling, and so on.

Benny Hicks · 01-26-2004, 11:02 PM

Wow, not until just now did I notice that exorcise was misspelled in the title of this thread.

Anyways, carry on...

Ben

**slap_j** · 01-27-2004, 12:59 AM

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Discernment is not just about whether or not you see a demon. It helps you determine when someone is lying, see someone's calling, and so on.

Sounds like crap to me.

Gracie Love · 01-27-2004, 02:26 AM

One I don't care for the langauge.

It talks of the gift of discernment in the Bible. When it comes to Prophesy, it talks about judging whether it is true prophesy from God or the enemy. I am sorry ( My husband took my Bible to work with him). Other wise I would find it.

**slap_j** · 01-27-2004, 07:12 AM

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One I don't care for the langauge.

Oh, haha, sorry. I forget who I am speaking with sometimes. No offense intended of course.

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It talks of the gift of discernment in the Bible. When it comes to Prophesy, it talks about judging whether it is true prophesy from God or the enemy. I am sorry ( My husband took my Bible to work with him). Other wise I would find it.

I would like to see some verses speaking of a gift of discernment in regards to demonic activity.

Gracie Love · 01-27-2004, 08:54 AM

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Discernment is not just about whether or not you see a demon. It helps you determine when someone is lying, see someone's calling, and so on.

Cor 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

**slap_j** · 01-27-2004, 09:08 AM

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Cor 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

It doesn't really matter, I am a cessationist.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 01-27-2004, 09:18 AM

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It doesn't really matter, I am a cessationist.

so scripture doesn't matter now, what the heck?!?!

try this one Josh

1 Corinthians 2;14

1 John provides the test of Spirits in 4:1-3

but discernment is key to wisdom. Too often it is viewed as a prejudicial second sight sortof thing, but discernment is according to proverbs a key element in wisdom.