Covenant Theology/Dispensationalism

Paul J. · 01-06-2004, 07:29 PM

Would anyone be willing to explain both Covenant Theology and Dispensationalism, and their differences? Or can anyone refer me to some good reading on the subjects? Please make it comprehensible. Thanks

**Ted Logan** · 01-06-2004, 07:49 PM

This article is written from a Reformed, Covenant Theology, Southern Baptist and thus is very biased against Dispensationalism. However, you might find it useful. I, for one, echo the writer's sentiments in many places even though I'm an Episcopalian who only recently became a Calvinist. I was a dispensationalist because I didn't know any better. The moment I began to study historical Christianity and Patristics, I realized that many of the things I believed were (often ridiculously) false.

I will leave the exposition of these positions to others more knowledgable than I.

frostydv · 01-06-2004, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron Adams

This article is written from a Reformed, Covenant Theology, Southern Baptist and thus is very biased against Dispensationalism. However, you might find it useful. I, for one, echo the writer's sentiments in many places even though I'm an Episcopalian who only recently became a Calvinist. I was a dispensationalist because I didn't know any better. The moment I began to study historical Christianity and Patristics, I realized that many of the things I believed were (often ridiculously) false.

I will leave the exposition of these positions to others more knowledgable than I.

good articles on new cov theology

http://www.5solas.org/archive.php?view=topic&topic=5

Gracie Love · 01-07-2004, 07:31 PM

new cov is that the same as kingdom theology?

**Athanasius** · 01-07-2004, 07:41 PM

No...New Covenant Theology is just progressive dispensationalism by a different name.

Gracie Love · 01-07-2004, 07:44 PM

Can you explain it to me. I am just learning about the different theologies.

Luke · 01-07-2004, 07:48 PM

New Covenant Theology is an attempt to take Covenant Theology and find a way to make it not entail infant baptism. Basically, they say that the OT law doesn't apply. The most recent argument I heard was that in Matt. 5:17 Christ says that He didn't come to abolish the law, but in fact He did abolish it as a side effect.

Grace & Peace
Luke

Gracie Love · 01-07-2004, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

New Covenant Theology is an attempt to take Covenant Theology and find a way to make it not entail infant baptism. Basically, they say that the OT law doesn't apply. The most recent argument I heard was that in Matt. 5:17 Christ says that He didn't come to abolish the law, but in fact He did abolish it as a side effect.

Grace & Peace
Luke

Okay but what about diminion and rapturist?

I tend to follow the kingdom theologist.

Thank you for your assistance.

Luke · 01-07-2004, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by misti houk

Okay but what about diminion and rapturist?

I'm rather unfamiliar with both theories, but both sound like eschatological extensions of the basic three hermeneutical systems.

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I tend to follow the kingdom theologist.

Which is?

Grace & Peace
Luke

Gracie Love · 01-07-2004, 09:21 PM

The Kingdom is here and in us. That the tribulations have already happen in 64AD That the Church (Christians) can't be defeated by satan as told by rapture theology.

Simplifying very much.

Luke · 01-07-2004, 09:23 PM

That's an eschatological viewpoint. What we are discussing includes, but isn't exclusively, eschatology.

Grace & Peace
Luke

**+Donny** · 01-07-2004, 10:09 PM

I have heard the terms "dominion theology" thrown around referring to postmills in general and reconstructionists in particular, so that may be what misti houk is talking about.

Could anyone give a detailed account of what NCT teaches?

frostydv · 01-07-2004, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by +Donny

I have heard the terms "dominion theology" thrown around referring to postmills in general and reconstructionists in particular, so that may be what misti houk is talking about.

Could anyone give a detailed account of what NCT teaches?

http://www.5solas.org/media.php?id=332

Paul J. · 01-08-2004, 07:29 AM

Can someone use an example from scripture as to how Dispensationalism/coventant theology/new covenant theology would differ in the interpretation of scripture? or does/should this effect interpretation in any way? Are there presupposed beliefs (calvinism, arminianism, semi-augustinian or mediate theology) that contribute to someone believing one over the next? - meaning do calvinists associate with a specific one, or arminians, etc.

Gracie Love · 01-08-2004, 08:02 AM

I agree. Can you bring some scriptures into this so that we might choose one over the other because I am actually new to this. I grew up being told the rapture is coming soon and car will be driving down the road with no drivers. I have not really found scripture to support that. I have found history and reading REV fits with that history. I am still deciding what is truth and not truth.