Demons and Demonic Attacks

gchord · 01-06-2004, 06:08 PM

I believe Satan can ,if we don't watch for it. 1 Peter 5:8 says,"Be sober,be vigilant;because your adversary,the devil walks around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour". Be sober means to keep a sharp mind,to look out for the unexespetive. Some might ,well sounds easy to me,but it's not.Satan knows your every weakness,and he'll use everyone to his advantage. Remember Job? Satan attacked him for all he was worth,how did he overcome? Verses 9,10,and 11 will tell you more.

J'horra · 01-06-2004, 06:17 PM

Hmm, I believe that satan is bound but not completely. Kind of like the saved, being saved and will be saved idea. He was defeated, but until Christ's reign is complete on earth as well as heaven he still has some power over the world, though not over christians.

rkbo · 01-06-2004, 06:20 PM

Acts 19:13-16
13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
(KJV)

Now seeing that satan was bound at the cross then this scripture shows that demon possesion is possible even if satan is bound.

Bryan · 01-06-2004, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lightknight

I just made this thread.

you didn't make this thread, you made a different thread on a similar topic

Bryan · 01-06-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lightknight

Who here believes in the present day attack of Satan? Including possesions and such. Why or why not? Scripturally speaking.

i have never heard of demonic possesions happening in modern day. There are a lot of people who believe it still happens a lot. There are tons of books on Spiritual Warfare. I however don't believe they happen to often any more.

J'horra · 01-06-2004, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan

i have never heard of demonic possesions happening in modern day. There are a lot of people who believe it still happens a lot. There are tons of books on Spiritual Warfare. I however don't believe they happen to often any more.

Often or at all?

exo · 01-06-2004, 07:55 PM

A really good book on this subject is "The Covering" by Hank Hannegraaf (sp?). I don't agree with everything he says in other contexts, but this book is spot on.

**Ted Logan** · 01-06-2004, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rkbo

Acts 19:13-16
13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
(KJV)

Now seeing that satan was bound at the cross then this scripture shows that demon possesion is possible even if satan is bound.

The Postmil/Amil would say that the binding of Satan happened sometime between the Ascension and AD 70.

Jeffrey · 01-06-2004, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron Adams

The Postmil/Amil would say that the binding of Satan happened sometime between the Ascension and AD 70.

To quote the Church Lady "How CONVENIENT."

**Ted Logan** · 01-06-2004, 08:22 PM

And I misspoke. I meant to say "Partial Preterists who believe Satan is bound", not "amil/postmil".

**Ted Logan** · 01-06-2004, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Starboard Wake

To quote the Church Lady "How CONVENIENT."

Yes, it is funny how God's prophetic Word comes to pass...

Gracie Love · 01-07-2004, 08:58 AM

I will tell you that I have seen attacks of the Devil on christians through non saved people as a christian comes back to God or gets stronger in the gifts, annoiting or calling. I have seen a pocessed person walk into church and sit throught the hole service. Until the Apsotle (please don't argue with me on what our man of GOd is called) said "Praise God" and we all started saying Praise God.

I agree that Satan has been bond and has no power but he will try to do what he can to destroy our faith and convictions. That is why satan and his demons are very easier ousted from a person.

I have seen other pocessions. One of a Chirstian. It is not what you see on TV or the big dramatic thing that some make of it.

exo · 01-07-2004, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by misti houk

I will tell you that I have seen attacks of the Devil on christians through non saved people as a christian comes back to God or gets stronger in the gifts, annoiting or calling. I have seen a pocessed person walk into church and sit throught the hole service. Until the Apsotle (please don't argue with me on what our man of GOd is called) said "Praise God" and we all started saying Praise God.

I agree that Satan has been bond and has no power but he will try to do what he can to destroy our faith and convictions. That is why satan and his demons are very easier ousted from a person.

I have seen other pocessions. One of a Chirstian. It is not what you see on TV or the big dramatic thing that some make of it.

There is no such thing as a demon possesing a Christian. It is impossible. It is false. The Holy Spirit and a demon cannot inhabit and control the same being.

link2001 · 01-07-2004, 01:09 PM

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misti houk said:
I have seen other pocessions. One of a Chirstian. It is not what you see on TV or the big dramatic thing that some make of it.

If this "christian" really was a christian, then the possession is immpossible. In Matt. 6:24 Jesus says that you can not serve two masters. Either you serve God, or you serve the world. If you serve God there is no way satan, or any of his demons, are getting in.

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misti houk said:
I agree that Satan has been bond and has no power but he will try to do what he can to destroy our faith and convictions.

That is a contradiction. If he is bound, having no power how can he influence us? If I were to tie you up with rope, chains, pad locks, etc. could you do anything other then lie on the floor?

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misti houk said:
That is why satan and his demons are very easier ousted from a person

If satan is bound, and his demons with him, see above.

Also if demons are easy to remove what happened to the disciples in Matt. 17?

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Bryan said:
i have never heard of demonic possesions happening in modern day. There are a lot of people who believe it still happens a lot. There are tons of books on Spiritual Warfare. I however don't believe they happen to often any more.

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J'horra said:
Often or at all?

The reason that you probably never heard of demonic possesions today is because most possessions happen in the under-developed world. I have friends who have had expericnes with possessed persons in Africa.

Why would demons have to possess people in the modern world when we have easy access to many different vices: pornography, achohol, drugs,etc.

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rkbo said:
Acts 19:13-16
13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
(KJV)

Now seeing that satan was bound at the cross then this scripture shows that demon possesion is possible even if satan is bound.

There is only ONE instance in the bible of satan possessing a person, and that is Judas when he betrayed Jesus.

Also, if satan is bound, wouldn't the reason for him being bound would be to show that humans are inhertitly evil. If his demons still have influence in the world would that not defeat the purpose of binding satan?

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J'horra said:
Hmm, I believe that satan is bound but not completely. Kind of like the saved, being saved and will be saved idea. He was defeated, but until Christ's reign is complete on earth as well as heaven he still has some power over the world, though not over christians.

Read Rev. 20:2-3 and tell me if it says that satan has power after he has been bound:

2He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years. 3He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

Sounds like the only thing satan can do is sit around and think about what to do when he finally is released.

Gracie Love · 01-07-2004, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by link2001

If this "christian" really was a christian, then the possession is immpossible. In Matt. 6:24 Jesus says that you can not serve two masters. Either you serve God, or you serve the world. If you serve God there is no way satan, or any of his demons, are getting in.

That is a contradiction. If he is bound, having no power how can he influence us? If I were to tie you up with rope, chains, pad locks, etc. could you do anything other then lie on the floor?

If satan is bound, and his demons with him, see above.

Also if demons are easy to remove what happened to the disciples in Matt. 17?

Satan can whisper in your ear. And convince you of things. He can tell you that you have a calling you don't. So I take it you are of Kingdom Theology? Or are you defeating your own arguement with the Rapture?