[Jonular]

This was in the Satellite review thread, and it was definitely going off topic, and shoed no signs of quitting. So per Sean's.....suggestion, I figured I'd start a thread here.

guitarman_888 says:

The new guitarist(Truby) is awesome, but he tried to hard to replace Marcos. I mean on Eternal, that was the type of thing that Marcos did. But Truby tried to hard to make one of those instumental/fillers. I respect the opinion of anyone who thinks the new cd is better. However, POD has changed dramaticly from their other albums. I do hope that POD goes more hardcore on their next cd like they were on their previous one's.

My reply in a new post.

~Jon

[Jonular]

What I said:

WHAT?! Truby in no way whatsoever tried to replace Marcos, at all. It's more of Truby's thing, actually, to do an instrumental like Eternal. Seriously, Jason is a much more talented guitarist than Curiel.

~Jon

[Jonular]

Then THIS is what sixzirens said (I'm putting these in separate posts to get red of possible confusion.

i beg to differ with jon here....i have been listening to Living Sacrifice,Jason Truby's old band for those who dont know, for years; correct me if i am wrong, but i dont recall any instrumentals truby did with them. personally i think marcos and truby are both fantastic players, but i dont think marcos always played to his own potential. listen to some of the solos on the live album; they are much better than anything marcos played after they rose from the underground.
on another subject, i think truby's playing went downhill on Payable on Death. he was a much more technical player when in Living Sacrifice. now it's all straightforward, radio-friendly stuff. almost sad.
one love, Warriors

[Jonular]

ii have been listening to Living Sacrifice,Jason Truby's old band for those who dont know, for years; correct me if i am wrong, but i dont recall any instrumentals truby did with them.

I dunno if he did any instrumentals with them. Maybe Angela or Matt knows.

Jason Truby was 17 when he was in LS. Since then, he's gone on and studied a lot more about gutiars. He's become a much more skilled guitarist since then, IMO, so comparing him to when he played in LS is really moot.

Originally Posted by sixzirens

listen to some of the solos on the live album; they are much better than anything marcos played after they rose from the underground.

I imagine Marcos played to his top potential, but I still think Jason showed much more talent.

Originally Posted by sixzirens

now it's all straightforward, radio-friendly stuff. almost sad.

How much of Payable On Death have you listened to? I don't think half of the songs qualify as radio friendly....

~Jon

[Sean]

Originally Posted by SystemOfAJon

This was in the Satellite review thread, and it was definitely going off topic, and shoed no signs of quitting. So per Sean's.....suggestion, I figured I'd start a thread here.

Yeah it came off as a suggestion because I can't remember my password...so I couldn't login to the MOD tools.....so I couldn't split it off and ship it here.

[fifsuperpod37]

How much of Payable On Death have you listened to? I don't think half of the songs qualify as radio friendly....

The only songs I can think of that are not radio friendly are
Wildfire, Asthma, and Eternal (obviously). The rest are catchier and sound more like the stuff you hear on the radio.

As far as Truby vs. Marcos. I like both. Marcos was all about simplicity. If you look at some of his best work like the song Messenjah the chorus is just 3 power chords. Truby is everywhere, on songs like Change the World, his various chord structures make the song. I think Truby is definitely more talented, but I like Marcos a lot.
I think the next album will take POD to another level (like they thought this one would) and Truby's playing will be obviously great.

[exetrememtbiker]

i like both but i think i like the songs pod used to play a little better so i dont know how to compare them untill i hear jason play one of their older songs from satellite or southtown then it will be a lot easier to compare them.

[Ardent1]

Originally Posted by someone i forgot..sorry

listen to some of the solos on the live album; they are much better than anything marcos played after they rose from the underground.

Yeah. Keyphrase is "after they rose from the underground." Marcos kicked everyone's frikin glutius max @ guitar. I loved his crunchiness and then the smooth acoustics whenever he did them...they were just so tasteful.

Originally Posted by Jon

I dunno if he did any instrumentals with them. Maybe Angela or Matt knows.

Truby did some instrumentals with LS, but most of them weren't anything like what he and Phil did on Payable On Death. There is "Presence of God" is an acoustic instrumental on Reborn. Other than that, I can't say I recall something like Eternal.

[PKfanSteph]

Originally Posted by guitarman_888

The new guitarist(Truby) is awesome, but he tried to hard to replace Marcos. I mean on Eternal, that was the type of thing that Marcos did. But Truby tried to hard to make one of those instumental/fillers.

I haven't heard much of Marco's playing so forgive me if I sound stupid, but what part of "Eternal" did you mean? The fact that it was an instrumental, the style it was in, or the way it was played?

[Symbiotic]

I never thought that Marcos was more talented than Truby....but i liked his style more.....but has anyone sen marcos' new band's site.....The accident Experiment.....i saw it once....not very uplifting to God.....but i wanted to go back and find some lyrics and stuff....but the site(at least my experience) no longer exists???...wuts up with that...can anyone help me? By the way....!!!!!!I still love POD!!!!!!....long live POD

[Symbiotic]

Originally Posted by PKfanSteph

I haven't heard much of Marco's playing so forgive me if I sound stupid, but what part of "Eternal" did you mean? The fact that it was an instrumental, the style it was in, or the way it was played?

If you listen to all of POD's previous cd's, there is an instrumental...and Living Sac. just didn't have them....the whole style of Eternal was like Celestial/Guitaras de Amour/(all the others).....listen to marcos' stuff, and you'll see what i mean

[ABAC-P]

eternal is an awesome song, regardless of why truby did it. Personally, i think truby is alot better than marcos, though i liked marcos' influence on the band better. they were much better when they had a harder edge to them, the new album was just too soft for me.

[Symbiotic]

Originally Posted by ABAC-P

eternal is an awesome song, regardless of why truby did it. Personally, i think truby is alot better than marcos, though i liked marcos' influence on the band better. they were much better when they had a harder edge to them, the new album was just too soft for me.

I couldn't agree more with anything you just said....Yes, eternal is awesome, i just thought jason was trying to hard to replace marcos....and yah, i was a bit disapointed with Payable on Death....they lost their hard sound when they lost/booted marcos....that was the sound i loved....i still like the new album, but i had the learn to like it....all of the rest of their albums i liked immidiately, but i had to give the new one a few listens....and before i buy a new album(providing they record a new one), i'm going to listen it in it's entirety to make sure it's still good stuff....but i'm not wooried about it getting any softer, because Jason came from a death metal band....so i think he'll stay semi-hard playing....it wasn't really the hardness that changed either....it was Sonny, he sings different now....if he goes back to the old ways(and i think Jason can play for that style) they'll be much better than ever....Jason plays different from Marcos, but not much softer....go have a listen....it's remarkable playing....so we'll see what happens

[Insane Drummer]

I don't like P.O.D. BUT Truby is a better player from what I have heard.

[Jonular]

This is an embarassing thread.

~Jon