Did it change the world?

Travis · 12-03-2003, 12:51 AM

It sure changed Iraq...

God's Jedi · 12-03-2003, 01:08 AM

Alexander the Great's conquests changed the world. The Protestant Reformation changed the world. While I believe that 9/11 had a major impact on MUCH of the world, it hasn't effected the WHOLE world like those events did. If you can be a little more specific with the question, I can do a little better.

***Art*** · 12-03-2003, 04:41 AM

I say yes. It changed enough of the world to be a world changing event in my book. When you can say a date, and nearly all of the adults in the United States, plus many many others around the world, know exactly what happened on that date and it's more than 2 years after the fact, yeah, you can bet that it is something that changed the world in some significant way.

JerryLove · 12-03-2003, 06:56 AM

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Alexander the Great's conquests changed the world.

Really? How did it affect the Ulmecs? or the Sue? Or the Hawains? Or the south-Africans? Or the Okinawans?

I'm not going to try to dictate a standard, but I wlil ask that anyone ansewering use a consistant one. I can find you people unaffected by WWII, so if that's your standard; it's not very useful.

Than · 12-03-2003, 06:36 PM

It definitely changed the world. Whether it's a permanent change like the events mentioned above remains to be seen, but it most certainly changed the world.

SccHarpGirl · 12-11-2003, 06:04 PM

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WWI and WWII effected way more countries and people than 9/11

Affected, not effected.

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It sure changed Iraq

And Afghanistan!

Danny · 12-13-2003, 06:00 AM

...I voted no, but after reading through the thread, I'm leaning toward yes. I'm too fickle.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 12-13-2003, 10:52 AM

What the freaking heck did 9-11 have to do with Iraq.

Our excuse, valid or not was the first gulf war, not 9-11

afghanistan was a whipping boy for it, yes, the regime change was good in my eyes, but it still was not about 9-11 or we'd have sent an assasination team to kill about 20 men.

we got brought into the realm the rest of the world has lived in and it doesn't feel foriegn to a man who as a boy had 2 incendiary devices hit my house.

***Art*** · 12-13-2003, 07:06 PM

Bill, my answer to that is this: 9/11 allowed for Bush to gain the support of the nation and the congress for Iraq.

Yojimbo · 12-13-2003, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BillSPrestonEsq

What the freaking heck did 9-11 have to do with Iraq.

Our excuse, valid or not was the first gulf war, not 9-11

afghanistan was a whipping boy for it, yes, the regime change was good in my eyes, but it still was not about 9-11 or we'd have sent an assasination team to kill about 20 men.

Tell this to Dick Cheney.

***BillSPrestonEsq*** · 12-13-2003, 08:40 PM

I honestly think it was about finishing up with Dad's enemies in Iraq. It would most likely have happened without 9-11.

Frodo · 12-14-2003, 03:21 PM

Changed the country, yes. Changed the world, no.

Than · 12-14-2003, 03:26 PM

What makes you say that? It polarized the world, focused our public policy on terrorism and national security, which led to military campaigns a world away, involving the U.N., the EU and various other nations in some form or another.

JakeW · 12-16-2003, 03:54 PM

I'm pretty sure Jerry was talking to me when this came up for the first time. It is turning out pretty much how I imagined it would.

Just to weigh in with everyone else, I think it's much to early to really decide if the world was changed by 2 buildings being blown up. I lean towards no myself. Simply because you really have to strech things back to blame them all on 9/11... and once you've stretched that far, why not go farther.

I.E. you can blame us going to Iraq (at least getting popular support) on 9/11 but why stop the blame at 9/11. Why not blame it on the day that Osama planned the blastings. Or the day that the U.S. did whatever to Osama to cause him to want to blow us up to cause us to give popular support for the war. Or on Osama's parrents for giving birth to a kid who would have somehign happen to him that would casue him to want to blow up the U.S. which would make us support pres. bush in a war... yadda yadda yadda.

I'm sure you see where I'm going. There's no reason to stop at 9/11 as an initail cause for world changing events even if you WANT to assert that those events were caused solely by that day's events.

All in all, to far to lean for me.

Jake

Jo Mo · 12-18-2003, 11:00 PM

I Look at it this way, after what happened on that day and there after a lot of souls turned to God. More people began to pray to God in a dramatic way like we haven't seen. Sure people are going toforget, but those who have turned to God wont forget for the rest of thier lives.