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Old 10-27-2003, 03:29 PM   #1
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Out of Communion

It's official. Today I voted myself out of communion with the Zimbabwean Diocese of Harare because of the actions of the bishop.

Here's a bit from AO on it.
Anglican bishop grabs white farm in Zimbabwe
The ZW News reports that the Sunday Times reports that an Anglican bishop has seized a previously white-owned farm for himself and his family in one of Zimbabwe’s prime agricultural districts. In the process, Nolbert Kunonga, the Bishop of Harare and a close associate of President Robert Mugabe, has evicted more than 50 black workers and their families to make way for his own staff.


I'm now waiting on Sydney to vote in lay presidency so I can vote myself out of communion with them, too.

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I'm now waiting on Sydney to vote in lay presidency so I can vote myself out of communion with them, too.
Sydney, Australia? What's the deal there, Isaac?
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Old 11-30-2003, 10:19 AM   #3
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Sydney, Australia? What's the deal there, Isaac?
The deal there, as he alluded to...is that Sydney is moving towards allowing lay presidence at the Table. I don't think that it's proper, but Isaac has stronger feelings than I do.
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Old 12-14-2003, 11:27 AM   #4
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The deal there, as he alluded to...is that Sydney is moving towards allowing lay presidence at the Table. I don't think that it's proper, but Isaac has stronger feelings than I do.
Ahh, it all clicks now. I've had numerous arguments with the son of an Anglican minister in Cairns (my former home) about Liturgy and Baptism, among other things. This particular Anglican minister refuses to wear robes during some services, despite the insistence of his Bishop, and defies his bishop (the Right Rev. John Noble, Bishop of North Queensland) in other matters as well. This kid has said that too many Anglican churches in Cairns get caught up in "all the traditions" (i.e. their Liturgy).

His dad was trained at Moore College, in Sydney, which is a "free church" seminary, and not even an Anglican seminary.

He holds a Baptist view of baptism (i.e. that its just a symbol to the community) and sees no real point in infant baptism.

I wanted to tell Troy that his dad ought to be barred from the ministry for flagrantly disobeying his bishop, but I didn't.
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Also, whats a Fideist?
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Also, whats a Fideist?
I think it is a person that rejects philisophical, scientific etc. reasons for religion, but demands blind faith.
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I think it is a person that rejects philisophical, scientific etc. reasons for religion, but demands blind faith.
Yeah but I am only a Pascalian Fideist...a moderate type. "Rational Fideist" if you will.

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I did not ecen see where the question came from.

Stupid Jon, going to Spain....
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