09-16-2003, 05:19 PM
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#1 | | jars.forlife
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Buffalo,NY Posts: 113
| taking worship to the school variety show.... well....this is something thats really been on my mind for the last month...and even though i keep thinking its impossible, the more i pray about it the more God seems to be saying that its right. i want to play a worship song in my school (youre average public high school filled with 90% people who arnt Christians...). variety show. because the way i look at it, we're ALL created by God...for God. and if worship brings us a Christians to God, it would have to do something to them too....even if it just stirs their heart. but the thing is.......i dont know what song to play...because it would have to get people's attention...and i was wondering if yall had any ideas.........any help would rock..
xROCKx,
-kyle the girl....
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09-16-2003, 05:31 PM
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#2 | | Banned
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| I don't know, this doesn't seem like a good idea to me, but I can't really express it right now. Maybe I'll get back to this later. |
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09-16-2003, 08:32 PM
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#3 | | Registered User
Joined: Sep 2003 Location: Duluth, MN Posts: 6
| Go for it. If you believe God says to do it, do it. It doesn't matter if you get kicked out of school or severely punished. What matters is that you bring glory to God and that people through your example either preach God's Word or become Christians. "If God is for us, who can stand against us?" says the Word. My advice is find some Christian frineds and all of you go for it. Other Christians who have been hiding will the speak because you did. Forward the cross!
In the Name of Christ,
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09-16-2003, 08:40 PM
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#4 | | Banned
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| I think my apprehension is because I think worship is something that should not be paraded in front of the world in talent shows as a means of evangelism, per se. This is a personal preference of mine, and I'd like to see some other views. Even at camps it whips me when people lead in praise and worship for a talent show. Quote: |
and if worship brings us a Christians to God, it would have to do something to them too....
| I don't think that is necessarily true. The music isn't the factor that changes, God is. Music stirring the heart can be dangerous, and can have very little to do with God. I would rather God stir the hearts of the unregenerate, because there is actual hope in that.
Anyway, those are just my initial thoughts. I don't know if I have clearly conveyed my opinion... |
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09-16-2003, 08:43 PM
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#5 | | jars.forlife
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Buffalo,NY Posts: 113
| wow im glad i told you...thanks for basically saying im a loser.... >:P
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09-16-2003, 08:46 PM
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#6 | | Registered User | Perhaps you could get their attention with music, then slowly fade down and start to talk and tell them why you were there, singing worship during a school variety show. I belive if you did it just right, you could minister to some hearts. That would be great. And, yeah if you think god is telling you to do it then go for it. |
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09-16-2003, 08:48 PM
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#7 | | Banned
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Originally Posted by xconsecratedx wow im glad i told you...thanks for basically saying im a loser.... >:P | That is a bit much. I did not in any way say you are a loser, nor did I mean to infer such. I am just voicing my genuine concerns about leading worship in a secular enviroment. If you don't agree, that is fine, but to say I am calling you a loser is just silly. Please, don't get so defensive. |
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09-16-2003, 08:49 PM
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#8 | | jars.forlife
Joined: Jun 2003 Location: Buffalo,NY Posts: 113
| the thing is...i know i cant be too overtly Christian...because then id probably get in trouble...but i mean, just SOMETHING to maybe even get people thinking about God........
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09-16-2003, 08:49 PM
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#9 | | Registered User
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 265
| i don't think he meant it that way...what he's saying is that worship is somethign that should be between you and god, and not exactly and "evangelism/performance" thing...though you can still evangelize through song. basically, worship should not be a performance to others, but rather to please and thank god. or perhaps i misinterpreted it...
all in all, you're definitely not a loser |
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09-16-2003, 08:50 PM
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#10 | | jars.forlife
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Originally Posted by benj That is a bit much. I did not in any way say you are a loser, nor did I mean to infer such. I am just voicing my genuine concerns about leading worship in a secular enviroment. If you don't agree, that is fine, but to say I am calling you a loser is just silly. Please, don't get so defensive. | ggrr..yeah...sorry. i get like that sometimes.....its something Gods been working on in me and i just totally forget and slip up when i get ticked off...sorry.
so would you do anything if you were me? cause..like..i just want my school to change...its possible, i know it could happen.....and well..idk
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09-16-2003, 08:58 PM
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#11 | | Banned
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| No, that is what I was saying, astromonkeyx. Quote:
ggrr..yeah...sorry. i get like that sometimes.....its something Gods been working on in me and i just totally forget and slip up when i get ticked off...sorry.
so would you do anything if you were me? cause..like..i just want my school to change...its possible, i know it could happen.....and well..idk
| It's ok.
Would I do anything in the talent show? I don't know. I, as has been explained, wouldn't do praise and worship in a talent show. I would most likely dialogue with my fellow students and live out the Gospel in my life, explaining Christ and the Cross in a way they can relate and understand. I just don't know that they would relate to a praise and worship song when they don't seek God in the first place. It is like talking in a whole other language to the unbeliever, most modern praise and worship. I think most unbelievers would be left not really caring what the song was about and still having no clear expression of what the Gospel is. But, again, this is only my opinion.
God willing, anything can happen in your school. I will pray for your situation and school, as I am sure you have been. |
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09-16-2003, 09:14 PM
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#12 | | Registered User
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| guess i was a little late on my post...3 of you posted when i was typing. heh |
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09-16-2003, 09:19 PM
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#13 | | JT
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,342
| As far as I'm concerned, a song is a song. I don't see anything special or holy about worship songs, so I guess I don't share Benj's concern. Don't think you're going to get up and lead worship, though. You're just playing a song. And that leads into a different reason maybe a worship song isn't your best bet. Most of them don't stand too well on their own as just a song. There's just not enough there. I wouldn't do any song that had less than two verses, and I'd probably shoot for something that had three verses, a chorus, and a bridge. |
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09-16-2003, 09:27 PM
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#14 | | Registered User
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| In guitar class at my school they have these things called open stages and ive seen lots of people preform worship songs, even for our final concert some people sang a worship song, i dont see a problem with it, ive heard lots of mainstream radio stations playing "I Can Only Imagine" lately which i think is cool, also you could play a song like "Everything" by Lifehouse.
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09-16-2003, 09:38 PM
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#15 | | Banned
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Originally Posted by Jay Tea As far as I'm concerned, a song is a song. I don't see anything special or holy about worship songs, so I guess I don't share Benj's concern. Don't think you're going to get up and lead worship, though. You're just playing a song. And that leads into a different reason maybe a worship song isn't your best bet. Most of them don't stand too well on their own as just a song. There's just not enough there. I wouldn't do any song that had less than two verses, and I'd probably shoot for something that had three verses, a chorus, and a bridge. | Thi is essentially my problem. Leading worship in a secular enviroment. Sorry if I didn't convey that. |
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