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Unread 05-06-2003, 03:53 AM   #1
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12-string guitar

I have been thinking about getting a 12-string guitar recently. I absolutely love the sound. Who do you think makes the best 12-strings and for the best prices (I am thinking around a grand is in my range if I get one). I am not necessarily buying one immediately, I just tend to think way ahead sometimes.

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Unread 05-06-2003, 01:33 PM   #2
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I'd say go with whoever you think makes the best 6-string guitars unless that company doesn't make one.
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Unread 05-06-2003, 02:30 PM   #3
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get a rickenbacker of some kind
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Unread 05-06-2003, 03:39 PM   #4
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I bought a Taylor 455ce for around $1,000. I wouldn't get anything other than a Taylor if you're going to spend around a thousand dollars. I bought mine used from here www.taylorguitarforum.com email me at aaronleb@fmtc.com if you have any questions.

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Unread 05-06-2003, 05:15 PM   #5
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Why should he only go for a Taylor? At $1000, there are plenty of 12-string guitars to choose from. Please don't stick to brand names as assurance of a good guitar.. read on:

Benj, I wouldn't exactly go shoot for one brand, but as I always tell people: go play some 12-stringers in your price range, regardless of brand name or look. An unbiased playing test should tell you what you need to know--which one sounds and plays best for $1000?

The Taylor may very well be a good 12 string, but don't automatically rule any guitars out or in be ing them.

A lot of people like the Rickenbacker 12-string sound. Some prefer a Taylor, and some like Deans. It's all up to you, Benj.

The bottom line is that you've got to go and play guitars. You can't really just ask for a specific brand and model and then go buy it blindly, based upon someone's opinion. You'll be happiest with the guitar you like the most, obviously.
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Unread 05-06-2003, 05:41 PM   #6
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yeh, i'd like to have a 12-string. i played a seagull at the music store(MMI) and i loved it!! it sounded like a symphony, well, not really. but it DID sound good. my dad is "prejudice" against seagulls. he doesn't like 'em. not sure why....but 12-strings do sound AWESOME!!

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Why should he only go for a Taylor? At $1000, there are plenty of 12-string guitars to choose from. Please don't stick to brand names as assurance of a good guitar.. read on:

Benj, I wouldn't exactly go shoot for one brand, but as I always tell people: go play some 12-stringers in your price range, regardless of brand name or look. An unbiased playing test should tell you what you need to know--which one sounds and plays best for $1000?

The Taylor may very well be a good 12 string, but don't automatically rule any guitars out or in be ing them.

A lot of people like the Rickenbacker 12-string sound. Some prefer a Taylor, and some like Deans. It's all up to you, Benj.

The bottom line is that you've got to go and play guitars. You can't really just ask for a specific brand and model and then go buy it blindly, based upon someone's opinion. You'll be happiest with the guitar you like the most, obviously.

I understand what you're saying! Taylor started off ONLY making 12 strings. It's what made them popular! Most people don't know that. Sometimes to get a good deal you don't always gte a chance to "play" the guitar first. If that's the case, Taylor's are well known for being a GREAT 12 string for the $1000 price range! I know die hard Martin players that will agree with me that Taylor 12 strings are amazingly consistant.

If I were going to go play before I buy I would play every guitar they had regardless of brand. If I'm going to buy used off the net, because I know I can get 300-400 off new price, I'll go with a brand that is known not for makeing the best guitars but known for making the most consistant guitars.

It's all opinion but you CAN see statistics about opinions. Taylors, Martins, Larrivee, and Breedlove are four of the most popular guitar brands over the $1000 mark. My favorite is Taylor because I think they are the most consistant. My point to Benj wasn't so much, "GO BUY A TAYLOR!!!" But I was rather saying, "Taylor is a great brand, I wouldn't buy anything else I haven't played. If you want help with buying a Taylor, let me know!"

The statement that "You have to go play guitars" can be good but you don't HAVE to play before you buy! I've bought three Taylor's used off the internet and have never had any problems. They've all had the Taylor sound I love! Not one of them has sounded less than what I thought. Playing a guitar before you buy can be good but many beginners (not saying you are benj) don't know what to look for in sound anyway! Why tell them to go play a guitar that they like now but when they get better they'll hate?

I'd just like to add that I have nothing more to add!

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Unread 05-06-2003, 06:18 PM   #8
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I lied! I do have something more to add! Many poeple will tell you to buy a certin brand because they played one once and LOVED it! The only reason they LOVED it was perhaps because the 12 string sound new to them and ANY 12 string tuned up will sound good to them! I remember the first 12 string I played I thought had to be the best guitar ever made. After playing the Taylor(and others) I realized how dull the first 12er I played sounded. Many people like to PLAY 12 strings but it's good to get advice from people that OWN 12 strings. I'm NOT saying, "LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE I KNOW!" haha

I'm done! (till next time)

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i really really like the dean 12 strings
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I don't play a 12 string and, Im not telling anybody what brand to buy. I was at my local shop today playing the new Taylor 110 (see other thread). After I got done playing the 110 I picked up other Taylors including a 355. Now I'm not an expert on 12 strings, but this was the first Taylor 12 string I ever played, and it sounded absolutley amazing. This guitar just sang like a choir of angels, and it felt real comfy to play. Go check them out.
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i have played a seagull and it sounded nice and i say the same for rickenbaker (<-- is that how you spell it) but over all the seagull is my fav
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Unread 05-06-2003, 09:09 PM   #12
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i'd agree with the "play alot of guitars" plan

Dean, Taylor, and Rickenbacker have good reputations in 12 stringin, but that doesn't mean you can't find an amazingly good guitar made by another company that might cost less than one of these companies.

but make sure you buy the one you like, not the one with the name, or the one that costs $50 less but doesn't sound quite as good. (unless you are on a serious cash crunch)
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Unread 05-07-2003, 01:21 AM   #13
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I don't play a 12 string and, Im not telling anybody what brand to buy. I was at my local shop today playing the new Taylor 110 (see other thread). After I got done playing the 110 I picked up other Taylors including a 355. Now I'm not an expert on 12 strings, but this was the first Taylor 12 string I ever played, and it sounded absolutley amazing. This guitar just sang like a choir of angels, and it felt real comfy to play. Go check them out.
yeah a taylor 12 was the first taylor that i was even remotely pleased wiht. i'm trying to remember though if that was the one that seemed to have a bigger neck than i was used to. here's the ironic thing, i played a couple martin 12s. one an X series adn another i think was the dm-12. i liked the x series one better. adn the strings on it were cruddy. the tone of that x series blew out the more expensive one big time...
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Unread 05-07-2003, 01:23 AM   #14
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Wow, thanks for the responses, guys. Feel free to keep them coming, as I am still on my quest. I am gonna check out some guitar shops pretty soon just to mess around on some 12-strings to see what I like.
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yeah good idea.. try lots and try em against each other. eliminate based on sound and feel primarily...
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