05-07-2009, 08:38 AM
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#136 | | Jump On It
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Originally Posted by bowstaff981 I thought the episode had a number of weak points, but I felt that the last scene with JD walking out was excellent. The idea to turn the "Goodbye JD" sign into a projection screen of JD's possible future was brilliant IMO. I also loved the janitor outside of the hospital, who I believe was actually Bill Lawrence, saying goodnight to him. I liked it because that's what really happens when you leave a place; you expect something really grand and in the end you just leave like it was any other night. | Yeah, the janitor outside was Bill Lawrence.
I felt as if the final episode of the season was the final episode. I don't really see how they could continue the show without J.D. or Lawrence, who also left the show. |
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05-07-2009, 12:58 PM
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#137 | | word Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by bowstaff981 I thought the episode had a number of weak points, but I felt that the last scene with JD walking out was excellent. The idea to turn the "Goodbye JD" sign into a projection screen of JD's possible future was brilliant IMO. I also loved the janitor outside of the hospital, who I believe was actually Bill Lawrence, saying goodnight to him. I liked it because that's what really happens when you leave a place; you expect something really grand and in the end you just leave like it was any other night. | Like any show that has made this kind of run...summing things up must be difficult. There were some places last night that seemed forced...but overall...I thought they ended things nicely.
I thought I might want to see them continue with the new interns and Cox...but after last night...I don't think I do. The scene you're talking about serves as a good end I think. It was somewhat expected and cliche...but it is the way most of us would want it to turn out. Too many shows overstay their welcome and totally blow it before bowing it. I don't want to see Scrubs do that too. |
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05-18-2009, 08:11 AM
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#138 | | word Super Moderator
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| I just read in Entertainment Weekly that Zach Braff has suggested that he'll come back and do guest spots for another season of Scrubs. He wouldn't be considered a full time cast member but he would show up from time to time. The same article said that Bill Lawrence really has no say so as to whether it will be back. He said he isn't opposed to it as long as it doesn't get stupid.
If this pans out...that last episode will seem a little weird. |
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05-18-2009, 08:15 AM
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#139 | | FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN
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Originally Posted by Mr. Role Modlin I just read in Entertainment Weekly that Zach Braff has suggested that he'll come back and do guest spots for another season of Scrubs. He wouldn't be considered a full time cast member but he would show up from time to time. The same article said that Bill Lawrence really has no say so as to whether it will be back. He said he isn't opposed to it as long as it doesn't get stupid.
If this pans out...that last episode will seem a little weird. |
Yeah, and last season wasn't that great anyway... it was just them doing the same jokes over again. I wish they would just leave it alone. Maybe, at the most, do some spinoff show with a different name and different characters.
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05-18-2009, 08:34 AM
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#140 | | word Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by McLuvinjesus Yeah, and last season wasn't that great anyway... it was just them doing the same jokes over again. I wish they would just leave it alone. Maybe, at the most, do some spinoff show with a different name and different characters. |
I wouldn't mind a show based around Cox torturing interns. |
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05-18-2009, 08:53 AM
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#141 | | Unregistered Visitor
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Originally Posted by McLuvinjesus Yeah, and last season wasn't that great anyway... it was just them doing the same jokes over again. I wish they would just leave it alone. Maybe, at the most, do some spinoff show with a different name and different characters. | Legal Custodians? |
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05-18-2009, 07:10 PM
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#142 | | Cool enough Administrator
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| Scrubs has been renewed.
I saw a really good interview with Zach Braff... He said that he would be a lot more likely to reprise his role occasionally in a spin-off, but that he may make a guest appearance in Scrubs again. |
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05-21-2009, 06:15 PM
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#143 | | word Super Moderator
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Originally Posted by Art Scrubs has been renewed.
I saw a really good interview with Zach Braff... He said that he would be a lot more likely to reprise his role occasionally in a spin-off, but that he may make a guest appearance in Scrubs again. |
I can live with that...as long as there isn't a mass exodus of main characters. |
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05-21-2009, 09:41 PM
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#144 | | Meat Popsicle
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Originally Posted by Mr. Role Modlin I can live with that...as long as there isn't a mass exodus of main characters. | According to wikipedia Zach Braff and Sarah Chalke will be in 6 episodes... Judy Reyes will probably only guest star as her role, however, Faison, Flynn, and McGinley will be regulars.
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05-23-2009, 04:34 PM
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#145 | | RIP CITY.
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| Eh. I can't see myself being all that interested. |
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12-29-2009, 12:39 AM
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#146 | | Epic Clayail
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| Well, the new season has been a disappointment, and now ABC is "burning off" the new episodes. It looks like Scrubs is going to end with an odd "what the Hell were they thinking?" coda for Sacred Heart fans for discuss for years to come.
Actually, I understand what they were thinking. In an economic downturn, keeping jobs for many, and trying to keep the magic going. I can respect that.
But they went about it all wrong.
First off, I didn't want a new season - many, many Scrubs fans didn't. The end of Season Eight was sweet, and made me weep.
The show was starting to lose it. I don't mean full-on "jump the shark." It had many, many great points. But in Seasons 7 & 8, J.D.'s man-boy routine became tiresome in many episodes, and J.D.'s relationship with Kim during the pregnancy as well as Elliot's relationship with Keith made both of them look like colossal ☺☺☺☺☺☺☺s.
Okay, I'll admit it. I haven't unleashed my venom on the American Office because I am standing in a glass house called Scrubs with a handful of stones. I got turned on to Scrubs a couple years back and caught up with all of the episodes. It became my soap opera.
Sure, sure: I own a Sacred Heart janitor's shirt (and sometimes wear it in public with matching Dickies); I reflect most often on the zany lines from J.D., Cox, Ted, etc.; I've connected with the main cast and appreciate how their characters have developed in terms of personal humor style; etc.
But let's admit it: the show is a soap opera for folks like me. Many heart-warming episodes, many sobering ones (I can wax venomic about House, even though I like a silly medical show, because House, unlike the American Office, is full of itself). Ongoing subplots: a divorced couple reuniting, awwwww.
So the last couple seasons have turned J.D. and Elliot into reprehensible, selfish heartbreakers for the sake of ever more dramatic plotlines (Elliot's cheating, Elliot's humiliation of Keith at the altar, Elliot's trampiness, J.D.'s "gotta be a husband" martyrdom, J.D.'s "another great girl that I don't like" syndrome). This was balanced out by the great repairing of the relationship of Cox and Jordan; by Kelso coming to grips with his role at the hospital and being able to let go; by the Janitor even getting some human moments.
So what's the problem with more Scrubs, especially since J.D. is out of the picture?
1) Over the course of Season Eight, we got to say farewell - and not just with the wonderful "My Finale" episode. The Janitor told his "real name," Cox admitted his respect for J.D., J.D. and Elliot made good on too many (from standpoint of exhaustion, not fan relief) years of "Will they?", Ted found himself a suitably quirky woman, Kelso bonded with other characters once his time as Chief of Medicine was over, etc. A new season that featured many of these characters returning...we were left dangling.
2) Cox went from emotionally-overcautious bad boy to reluctant mentor and lover to likable colleague and father figure (both literally and figuratively). So do we really want to see him take on some new "newbies" and go through the same cycle? The moment we could tell the new narrator of the show was a young woman as quirky and frail as J.D., I felt so tired. We've seen Cox change; we've watched the blossoming of a young doctor. Do we have to do it all again?
3) The show's about J.D. The format spent eight years with him at the helm, so it feels weird without him. He's not my "favorite character" - I'd rank the Janitor and Cox - but in all honesty he is my and everyone's favorite character. We've seen Sacred Heart through his eyes for eight seasons. He's also a great character, humorous and eloquent, even if they let him go into a rut the past couple of seasons.
4) There are too many new characters in Season Nine, and even if they were enjoyable (they're...okay; they all would have fit as recurring characters from Seasons 5-8), they were boxed out in the first few episodes by too much J.D. - not even too much Cox and Turk (the guys who are staying!). We get it, they were trying to ease us in. But...
5) Having J.D. around for the introductory episodes as well as having Turk, Kelso, Cox, a flashback to the Janitor, a major episode for Ted, etc. only served to remind us what we were losing, not to prime us for the new setting and new characters.
6) We don't like the new characters (most of us don't). The main girl sleeping with the jerk so quickly made her an annoying trampy retread of Elliot - yet the trampiness didn't fit the new girl's basic character stereotype, so it was annoying. The edgy advisor girl - I can't tell if her character doesn't care or if the actress doesn't. Obnoxious, entitled rich kid? A few funny lines, but we've dealt with his kind in past seasons.
7) Farewell episode to Ted, after Season Eight's closure? A fun episode, but weird.
8) No Judy Reyes? I get it, she wasn't as zany a character as J.D. or Turk. But she was the heart of the cast. I miss her already.
8) The new writers don't quite get the humorous pacing and patter of Scrubs.
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12-29-2009, 02:16 AM
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#147 | | Unregistered Visitor
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey 1) Over the course of Season Eight, we got to say farewell - and not just with the wonderful "My Finale" episode. The Janitor told his "real name," Cox admitted his respect for J.D., J.D. and Elliot made good on too many (from standpoint of exhaustion, not fan relief) years of "Will they?", Ted found himself a suitably quirky woman, Kelso bonded with other characters once his time as Chief of Medicine was over, etc. A new season that featured many of these characters returning...we were left dangling.
2) Cox went from emotionally-overcautious bad boy to reluctant mentor and lover to likable colleague and father figure (both literally and figuratively). So do we really want to see him take on some new "newbies" and go through the same cycle? The moment we could tell the new narrator of the show was a young woman as quirky and frail as J.D., I felt so tired. We've seen Cox change; we've watched the blossoming of a young doctor. Do we have to do it all again?
3) The show's about J.D. The format spent eight years with him at the helm, so it feels weird without him. He's not my "favorite character" - I'd rank the Janitor and Cox - but in all honesty he is my and everyone's favorite character. We've seen Sacred Heart through his eyes for eight seasons. He's also a great character, humorous and eloquent, even if they let him go into a rut the past couple of seasons. | This is exactly why I haven't watched any of the new episodes. This is going to sound really cheesy, but I shared so many emotional moments with this show. I love nothing more than to get caught up in an episode of Scrubs knowing that it will break my heart (or at least tenderize it) by the end of the thirty minutes. So when the Season Eight Finale rolled around I was expecting it to be a doozie, and i was not let down. I absolutely love how they pointed out that life is anticlimactic, but then gave they us the big emotional payoff anyways, because that's what Scrubs does. And I loved it. At the time that it aired I was waiting to hear back from universities to find out where I would be attending school. I was ending an era of my life, and JD was too; thus the finale really struck a chord with me. I would go so far as to say that it majorly affected my outlook on college. It was the perfect ending of the show for me. So, when I heard that there would be another season I opted not to watch it because I have gotten everything I can get from this show. Ending on Season Eight was perfect for me. Continuing on another season might be perfect for someone else, no for me, and apparently not for most people either. |
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12-29-2009, 02:57 AM
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#148 | | Epic Clayail
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Originally Posted by bowstaff981 I love nothing more than to get caught up in an episode of Scrubs knowing that it will break my heart (or at least tenderize it) by the end of the thirty minutes. | Dude. That is totally wussy. And eerily accurate. I feel like we just e-bonded. Quote: |
So when the Season Eight Finale rolled around I was expecting it to be a doozie, and i was not let down. I absolutely love how they pointed out that life is anticlimactic, but then gave they us the big emotional payoff anyways, because that's what Scrubs does. And I loved it. At the time that it aired I was waiting to hear back from universities to find out where I would be attending school. I was ending an era of my life, and JD was too; thus the finale really struck a chord with me. I would go so far as to say that it majorly affected my outlook on college. It was the perfect ending of the show for me.
| I haven't been watching for long. I first caught it via Comedy Central re-runs. I watched it with my roommate and fell in love. He started renting the seasons; then I started to rent them.
I started watching it last year, when I realized that while I may want to teach long-term, I didn't want to stay at my current school for long. I really connected with the characters, but not just because they were easy to relate to. The theme of coming into one's own...it was nice to see a comedy about twenty-something struggling in their daily lives, in a way that felt like the writers really remembered what it was like.
What really hooked me was the series of episodes where Cox and Laverne debated whether life had meaning, and then just as Cox came around to Laverne's point of view, he discovered Laverne had slipped into a coma. I mean, the first hook for me was the Janitor. As several pals have noted, the character is so vicious and bizarre, I'd either love or hate him. I love him, precisely because I hate him. But once the wackiness pulled me in, I found that they had soul.
I was going through some major philosophical issues (still am) when I first started watching the show: epistemological, theological, existential, linguistic. I started really sleeping odd hours from depression. Only two of my friends were there for me.
But everyday I'd come home in time to watch the two Scrubs episodes. It was a nice respite.
I also am an apopheniac. I caught up on the released episodes in under a year, and the last episode of Season Seven ended with "Alive with the Glory of Love," a song from one of my top five albums. It was an uncharacteristic choice for the show, musically, and I felt that there was some Jungian synchronicity that I had caught up with the show just to find that they had "caught up" with me, musically (that...sounds odd).
Then, the last episode featured Peter Gabriel's cover of "The Book of Love," again off one of my favorite albums (the Magnetic Fields' 69 Love Songs). So the note it ended on rang with me because it was struck with a song I had loved since early college.
So, yeah. Scrubs was a show that had just enough depth that many of us were engaged. I laughed at the finales of Seinfeld, and it was certainly more clever than Scrubs. I was sad to see King of Queens end, but that's just a fun show. I don't really care about the characters. Scrubs was the perfect mix of pathos, comedy, and characters that progressed. Quote: |
Continuing on another season might be perfect for someone else, no for me, and apparently not for most people either.
| Exactly. I'd rather see the writers go forth and create new magic on new shows.
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12-29-2009, 08:23 AM
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#149 | | ...more machine than man.
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| You know, I'm mixed about this season. There have been a few touching moments, and a few funny moments, but for the most part it really just feels like they're trying too hard. It might have been better if they had just completely left Braff out this year. JD seems more like the joke now than the main character.
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12-29-2009, 06:12 PM
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#150 | | FUN FUN FUN FUN FUN
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| The new Scrubs is basically old Scrubs with more annoying characters that I care nothing about. |
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