[Becky]

what must you believe in order to be considered pentecostal?

[Mike Graham]

I would say that self-proclemation is about it. Pentacostals are typically Arminian, non-cessationist, fundamentalists with celabratory worship.

[Pseudoname]

Heya Becky,

Pentecostals are a protestant branch that hilight the pouring out of the holy spirit on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2.
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Acts 2:1-4
1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
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Overall though, we believe:
1a) The Holy Ghost is still being poured out today
1b) Speaking in tonges (with the holy ghost)
2) Baptism is Jesus' name for remission of sins
3) Elders of the church anointing the sick with oil and praying with them

Just to clarify on the above points...
1) Forgive me for not having the reference with me, but it is said that God will continue to pour our his spirit on believers until Jesus' return, so it would therefore still be happening today.
2) This baptism is done in a symbolic way as done in the bible. Instead of sprinkling water on your head for the baptism, you are totally submerged in water. This is to symbolize your being totally buried and dead to your old life, and being raised out of the water a new person, forgiven of all sins.
3) This was practiced by disciples in the New Testament and Old, the pastor at my church will just take a bit of oil on his thumb and place it on the forehead of the one he's praying for.

If anyone has anything to add, please do. If you have any questions for me, just PM me or email me at Pseudoname07@hotmail.com

[Nathanael]

Originally posted by Pseudoname
Heya Becky,

Pentecostals are a protestant branch that hilight the pouring out of the holy spirit on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2.
---
Acts 2:1-4
1When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues as the Spirit enabled them.
---
Overall though, we believe:
1a) The Holy Ghost is still being poured out today
1b) Speaking in tonges (with the holy ghost)
2) Baptism is Jesus' name for remission of sins
3) Elders of the church anointing the sick with oil and praying with them

Just to clarify on the above points...
1) Forgive me for not having the reference with me, but it is said that God will continue to pour our his spirit on believers until Jesus' return, so it would therefore still be happening today.
2) This baptism is done in a symbolic way as done in the bible. Instead of sprinkling water on your head for the baptism, you are totally submerged in water. This is to symbolize your being totally buried and dead to your old life, and being raised out of the water a new person, forgiven of all sins.
3) This was practiced by disciples in the New Testament and Old, the pastor at my church will just take a bit of oil on his thumb and place it on the forehead of the one he's praying for.

If anyone has anything to add, please do. If you have any questions for me, just PM me or email me at Pseudoname07@hotmail.com

This sounds exactly right, as far as agreeing with what I and our church believes. Are you UPC?

[Mike Graham]

Baptism in solely Jesus name is ... typically a United Pentacostal issue, definately not held by the Assemblies of God.

EDIT* If you have an argument to make, express it as that- not as fact in message.

[Mrstickball]

Here's the Church of God's delcaration of faith (2nd largest Penecostal denomination in the US as far as I know)

In the verbal inspiration of the Bible.

In one God eternally existing in three persons; namely, the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

That Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of the Father, conceived of the Holy Ghost, and born of the Virgin Mary. That Jesus was crucified, buried, and raised from the dead. That He ascended to heaven and is today at the right hand of the Father as the Intercessor.

That all have sinned and come short of the glory of God and that repentance is commanded of God for all and necessary for forgiveness of sins.

That justification, regeneration, and the new birth are wrought by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ.

In sanctification subsequent to the new birth, through faith in the blood of Christ; through the Word, and by the Holy Ghost.

Holiness to be God's standard of living for His people.

In the baptism with the Holy Ghost subsequent to a clean heart.
In speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance and that it is the initial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

In water baptism by immersion, and all who repent should be baptized in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

Divine healing is provided for all in the atonement.

In the Lord's Supper and washing of the saints' feet.
In the premillennial second coming of Jesus. First, to resurrect the righteous dead and to catch away the living saints to Him in the air. Second, to reign on the earth a thousand years.

In the bodily resurrection; eternal life for the righteous, and eternal punishment for the wicked.



Basically, to define one as a penecostal, you have to speak in tounges, or any of the other gifts of the spirit.....There are alot of different penecostal denominations, so it can vary very largley.

[Bri-Guy]

Hey Mrstickball. . . are you Church of God too???

[Mrstickball]

Yup, I'm a Church of God guy (Cleveland TN).....Quite involved in our local congregation too.

There are some really nice people in the CoG.....Met quite a bit in the near 2 years I've been going to a CoG church and visiting a few other CoG churches.

[b8matt]

listen you gave a great arguement, but you missed a lot of the facts. a lot of the stuff you have is not biblical. (i'm not going to quote any of these cause i hope that being such a good christian that you do have a bible around)

Baptism in the name of jesus...
matthew 28:19- Jesus tell his disciples to go and baptize in the name of the father, and of the son, and of the holy ghost. Well you know that if jesus tole them that then they must do it right?

Acts 2:38(and throughout the book of acts)-the disciples plainly go against jesus and baptize in his name, or did they?

I John 5:7- it says that there are three that bear record in heaven, the father the word , and the holy spirit, and these three are one. this is just a basic overview of baptism.

John 1:1-says that god is the word(last line) well then skip to verse 14. It states that the word was made flesh and dwelt among us. so the word is Jesus....and god is jesus!?

John 3:5- in a talk with Nicodemus(a master of israel) and he states that if you have no been born of the water and of the spirit you can not go let alone see the kingdom of heaven.

in matthew 28:19 the word 'name' is singular meaning that it is a prepositional phrase. name refers to father, to son and to the holy ghost. Father, son, and holy ghost are just titles. just like you would call your dad dad, he is also a husband, a son, a friend, but you dont see 3 other versions of him and call him a trinity.

see there is no trinity. look it up in the council of Nicea in 325 ad. the roman catholic church developed the apostles creed and in general changed the form of baptism.

if the holy ghost didnt come with speaking with tongues, then why did the apostles and the 150 in the upper room speak with other tongues. it says in the bible(im not sure where) that the tongue is the most unruley member of the body and is the last to submit itself to god. that is why god chose it to be the sign that you have recieved the holy ghost because it is a sign of TOTAL submission.

one last thing
Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we shall be saved."

[Nathanael]

Originally posted by b8matt
Baptism in the name of jesus...

At first I didn't read your post well enough, and thought it was an argument for trinitarian baptisim. But the I realized my error. Nice job

if the holy ghost didnt come with speaking with tongues, then why did the apostles and the 150 in the upper room speak with other tongues. it says in the bible(im not sure where) that the tongue is the most unruley member of the body and is the last to submit itself to god. that is why god chose it to be the sign that you have recieved the holy ghost because it is a sign of TOTAL submission.

James 3:8
But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

This is a verse I've forgotton too often... I've wanted to use when explainingto other CGRers the doctrine of tounges and the holy ghost.

one last thing
Acts 4:12 "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we shall be saved."

Amen!

[Raphael]

We're them noisy "happy-clappy" types who babble away in unintelligble languages.

[b8matt]

Preach it Brother!!! PREACH!!!

yehehe so where are yall from?

[turnpike gates]

"We're them noisy "happy-clappy" types who babble away in unintelligble languages."

Lol, yeah, and scare off all my non-Christian friends. I ain't one 'cos I have no desire to babble for God.

[Nathanael]

Oh my, let's not offended anyone while serving God

[jesusfreak1234]

what do u think makes pentacostal different form everything else?