Why can't all athletes be this cool?

Mark · 05-28-2003, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by Euchre0
But does that make him a Christian, is that what we are saying?

as for Webber, he quoted scripture a few weeks ago...makes me wonder...

i don't think Art ever said he was a Christian. I think he was pointing out his giving spirit toward the people of his home, Serbia.

I could be wrong though.

Dr. Doom · 05-28-2003, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by MarkO
i don't think Art ever said he was a Christian. I think he was pointing out his giving spirit toward the people of his home, Serbia.

I could be wrong though.

yeah, i realized that after i re-read the thread, i just didn't feel like editing my post right then

***Art*** · 05-28-2003, 09:01 PM

Haha, it's all good, Andrew. Webber... yeah, he grew up in a Christian home... I've heard him talk about how no matter what was going on with basketball, his Dad always made him go to church. Also, I've heard him talk about how important his faith is... Definitely makes me wonder.

And hope.

bennie5 · 05-29-2003, 02:37 PM

I really doubt Webber is a Christian. Anybody can quote scripture. That doesnt' make them a believer. I mean come on Ben Franklin quoted scripture but he was probably the most ungodly man who signed the declaration of indepence.

***Art*** · 05-29-2003, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by bennie5
I really doubt Webber is a Christian. Anybody can quote scripture. That doesnt' make them a believer. I mean come on Ben Franklin quoted scripture but he was probably the most ungodly man who signed the declaration of indepence.

I don't think you really have a right or reason to doubt it. You don't know him, just as we don't know him.

bennie5 · 05-30-2003, 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by Art
I don't think you really have a right or reason to doubt it. You don't know him, just as we don't know him.

lol sure i do. First of all he's all in trouble with everybody for accepting money from Michigan and hey he's not admitting or apologizing for any of it. In fact didn't he lie about it? Thats reason enough for me to doubt. Also just the way he acts and carries himself makes me doubt. Your right i don't know him but i can look at the way he acts and think what i want. You don't know him either, so your opinion doesn't mean any more than mine does. Dude you gotta learn you can't believe everything you hear, especially about athletes man. Most of them are all about the money, power, and image. The sooner you learn that the better off you'll be. I mean its a pretty naive view to think anybody that says something half-way Christian is gonna be a believer. You gotta look at their lifestyle too.

***Art*** · 05-30-2003, 02:29 AM

I'm sorry, but what on Earth do you know about his lifestyle?

The money scandal occurred, what, 11 years ago? You know, I was not a Christian 11 years ago.

It has not been proved that he lied to the Grand Jury. Indicted is not a synonym for convicted. Check out the facts first.

Realize that we were discussing that it could be a possibilty that the man is a Christian, and you outright dismissed it. I never said it was true, or even likely. I only stated the facts.

I am not naive about this. I know how many people call themselves Christians, but don't even know what that means. It was suggested as a possibility, and nothing more.

You know, I mentioned in another thread the possibility that Mike Bibby is a Chrisitan, and nobody jumped on that one. Well, he's never been indicted by a grand jury, but he does have 3 children out of wedlock

bennie5 · 05-30-2003, 11:05 PM

I jumped on the Bibby thing. If i didn't i meant to. I would also doubt he is. I'm just saying the way people carry themselves will show alot about them. Your right he hasn't been convicted but he hasn't apologized or admitted it either. My personal opinion is that a real believer would wanna come clean of it all. Sorry if this disapoints you or something. I mean i know how you can have a heroe or whatever and think the world of them and then be dissapointed i just don't either know or think any of the kings except Lawrence Funderburke are Christians. Especially Webber and Bibby.

***Art*** · 05-31-2003, 02:23 AM

Haha, I'm sorry, but you are being a bit ridiculous. First of all, yes, Christians do bad things. It happens. Second, it is just not your place to decide if they are Christians. Especially when you know so little about them.

bennie5 · 05-31-2003, 10:51 PM

Okay lets look at it the way you do here for a minute. Let's say i was to tell you that i thought Dennis Rodman or Allen Iverson were believers because i heard them refer to God or the Bible and also because they give alot of money away. Oh you know Christians make mistakes too..........................Allen Iverson's rap cd was just a mistake. I mean gee that happened what two years ago? And Dennis Rodman sure he's dressed in drag but hey Christians make mistakes and he talked about God on tv so oh he must be a believer. Get what i'm sayin here man? I'm overduing it a little but you get the idea. You can't believe everything somebody says. You have to look at their life and the way they act also. I mean 90% of the US will tell you that they believe in God. Does that make them Christians?

***Art*** · 06-01-2003, 02:55 AM

Okay, listen closely. Er... read closely. I never said that Chris Webber was a Christian. Neither did Mark. it was presented as a possibility. And to compare Webber to Iverson and Rodman??? That is ludicrous!

bennie5 · 06-01-2003, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by Art
Okay, listen closely. Er... read closely. I never said that Chris Webber was a Christian. Neither did Mark. it was presented as a possibility. And to compare Webber to Iverson and Rodman??? That is ludicrous!

Not really..........ahh well i'm sick of arguin with you about it. If thats what you think than hey whatever.

Mark · 06-01-2003, 09:32 PM

guys, if ya wanna talk about this further, i suggest using PM's

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