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Unread 03-07-2003, 11:47 AM   #1
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Guitar Pins?

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last night one of the pins on my guitar broke(the things that go into the bridge)...i am wondering what i should get to replace them with. I heard there were metal pins.....how would they change the sound of the guitar. any pros/cons on haveing theese over the wooden ones? THANKS!

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Unread 03-07-2003, 12:07 PM   #2
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Re: Guitar Pins?

Heya,

I would replace the pin with whatever kind of pin it was before - that way it matches the rest of the pins.. but that might just be me.
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Unread 03-07-2003, 12:24 PM   #3
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i'd think more than likely you'll have to replace all the bridge pins...
as far as metal or brass pins go, i'd think they could offer a brighter sound with more sustain...i've never had them, but that's what makes sense to me...
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I haven't seen any wood ones, but I think they are made. Most are plastic. I haven't seen metal ones either, but i'm guessing that a metal pin would have a brighter, thinner tone than wood or plastic.
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Unread 03-07-2003, 12:56 PM   #5
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Honestly, the material of the pins isn't going to make a huge difference in your tone unless it's really heavy, and then it would tend to damp the reponse of the guitar's top (less attack). The plastic ones are my favorite because they're cheap and they do the job. You've got to remember that it's a chunk of wood that's really holding the string in there, not the peg. The peg just pushes the ball of the string up against the chunk of wood.

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Unread 03-07-2003, 05:45 PM   #6
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I don't think you're going to end up with a huge difference in sound. Of course those who would spend a large amount of cash on pins are going to say those pins are absolutely mandatory. I like the black ones with the little dots.
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Unread 03-07-2003, 06:16 PM   #7
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yeah, they won't affect sound much. The do look nicer though, and probably last a lot longer. The only readily replaceable parts on an acoustic guitar that will change your sound (aside from strings) are the saddle and the nut. You can get replacements made out of better materials than the cheap plastic they're usually made of, and they'll brighten up tone and reduce string wear.
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Unread 03-07-2003, 08:08 PM   #8
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To be honest, if you have a LOW end guitar it matters little. If your guitar is mid or high end, it will make a VERY noticable difference, sometimes dramatic.

Fossilized Wallruss Ivory ig generally reguarded as the finest choice, but can cost over 150.00 for a set.

Standard bone is the most popular choice. It is warmer and has better sustain.

Someone mentioned metal (brass). This is not really a popular option. The mass and weight mean ZIPPO by themselves. The BEST performing pins, saddles, and nuts should have good weight to density ratios. Meaning they should be as light as possible, and as dense as possible.

Pins, saddle, and nut material all can make a BIG difference in the tone from your guitar.

Browse thru the UNOFFICIAL MARTIAN GUITAR FORUM, it is a great reference on this topic.

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"Browse thru the UNOFFICIAL MARTIAN GUITAR FORUM, it is a great reference on this topic."

martian guitar forum? where little green men talk about guitar stuff? lol....
you mean martin i'm almost certain..it was a funny typo though..

also

the acoustic forum at harmony-central.com
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OK , you got me on that one. And you are correct.................That is REALLY funny.
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"Browse thru the UNOFFICIAL MARTIAN GUITAR FORUM, it is a great reference on this topic."

martian guitar forum? where little green men talk about guitar stuff? lol....
you mean martin i'm almost certain..it was a funny typo though..


haha if you hadn't posted on that one, i woudl have
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Cool Re: Guitar Pins?

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hey,
last night one of the pins on my guitar broke(the things that go into the bridge)...i am wondering what i should get to replace them with. I heard there were metal pins.....how would they change the sound of the guitar. any pros/cons on haveing theese over the wooden ones? THANKS!
I've got brass pins in a taylor acoustic of mine. I can't tell that they've had any influence on the tone, but I think they look pretty.
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Unread 03-09-2003, 02:16 PM   #13
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The BEST performing pins, saddles, and nuts should have good weight to density ratios. Meaning they should be as light as possible, and as dense as possible.
Density = mass per volume, which is basically like saying weight per volume. To tell someone to look for something that's really lightweight and also has a high weight per volume is backward. I'm not sure where you got that advice from, but my gut tells me you may want to re-read it or (at least) quesiton it. Bone (one of the best materials) has a relatively low density. Ebony (very nice sounding but very poor durability) is the most dense wood available, but it's still wood (and thus, not all that dense).

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Unread 03-09-2003, 04:14 PM   #14
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Ok...well i baught some new pins...white plastic type ones... they dont seem to go in all the way...they stick out a lot more than my old ones do. Now the question is ....Does Ibanez use special Pins or how do i make them go into the hole more?
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Unread 03-09-2003, 04:30 PM   #15
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You don't. They do not need to go in ant farther than is necessary to keep the strings in place. If they are sticking up so far that your playing is affected ( which I do not think is possible ) then you will have to get the holes reamed.

The taper on guitar pins are standard, UNLESS you bought oversized pins by mistake, and that should be on the package somewhere.

My Martin pins sit up a little higher than most I have seen, and they have since they were new.

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