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Old 04-18-2003, 05:13 PM   #61
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Old 04-19-2003, 09:09 PM   #62
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non-denominational just means independent. most christian churches and churches of christ are independent, and they don't deal with any ruling body and are not linked to any other churches- not necessarily pentacostal. christian churches follow the bible, that's all- there are no other special rules to follow. my church is a christian church, non-denominational, actually it's first christian church of phoenix, you should check it out if you are in the valley!
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umm, well..
i think it has been said, but i would like to emphasize that a non denominational church, for the most part, (as i have seen), is centered around believing what the Bible says, and ONLY what the Bible says. They dont want to be sidetracked with any other type of doctrine or code, because really, the bible is the only guide book needed. (even if a doctrine is BASED on the Bible, whats the point then? really, nothing needs to be added, and nothing needs to be taken away). Another thing that is important about non-denominational churches is that they have no..."central government". Each one is usualy entirely seperate, and governs itself, with a group of folks, the term "elder" is convieniently used alot, which kinda goes along with what i have heard used to describe the non-denom church, the phrase: "modeled after the new testament church" ...
um.. i kniow i had more to write, but i've lost my train of thought, so i'll end now

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Often we get so caught up in putting labels on people, when in the overall run we're all part of one body. I don't care where you fellowship at, the chruch is made up of Christians, not denominations.
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umm, well..
i think it has been said, but i would like to emphasize that a non denominational church, for the most part, (as i have seen), is centered around believing what the Bible says, and ONLY what the Bible says. They dont want to be sidetracked with any other type of doctrine or code, because really, the bible is the only guide book needed. (even if a doctrine is BASED on the Bible, whats the point then? really, nothing needs to be added, and nothing needs to be taken away). Another thing that is important about non-denominational churches is that they have no..."central government". Each one is usualy entirely seperate, and governs itself, with a group of folks, the term "elder" is convieniently used alot, which kinda goes along with what i have heard used to describe the non-denom church, the phrase: "modeled after the new testament church" ...
um.. i kniow i had more to write, but i've lost my train of thought, so i'll end now

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What does the New Testament say? Denominations are groups of people who agree on what, exactly, it says.
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That doesn't make much sense considering the fact that Christianity is a religion.
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thanks for your reply....i thought i posted this comment under the non-denominational section...and that was my very broad and brief definition.....ie to me the Established Church and its rituals are largely man made....(nothing wrong with that if thats where your comfortable and find GOD) However for me Christianity is a Lifestyle centered around God and Jesus.The Church i attend allows you to express yourself from the Heart...call out to God...listen to God...expect the unexpected...after all who would want to put limitations on God...in essence we look at what the Bible says (rather than man or Tradition) and try our best to follow its Teachings..wasnt it for Freedom that Christ has set us Free?

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thanks for your reply....i thought i posted this comment under the non-denominational section...and that was my very broad and brief definition.....ie to me the Established Church and its rituals are largely man made....(nothing wrong with that if thats where your comfortable and find GOD) However for me Christianity is a Lifestyle centered around God and Jesus.The Church i attend allows you to express yourself from the Heart...call out to God...listen to God...expect the unexpected...after all who would want to put limitations on God...in essence we look at what the Bible says (rather than man or Tradition) and try our best to follow its Teachings..wasnt it for Freedom that Christ has set us Free?

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You're implying that us denominationals place man over the Bible, and no matter how apologetic you try to be, that is a rather serious charge. I'll say it again: the vast majority of denominations hold Scripture to be the sole authority. We simply disagree on what Scripture says.
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Why do you think im going to be Apologetic(a bit presumptious on your part) i actually said in the previous post "to me the Established Church and its rituals are largely man made"...NB not soley man made..i never made any reference to Scripture not being the Authority...?if i found for example counting Rosary Beads and saying 100 Hail Marys...and Praying for those in Purgatory..somewhere in the OT or NT..then using this example i may change my mind and become established denominational (this is just an example)for me the True Freedom is contained in the Bible and not in a Building!
Anyway what did u mean by "We simply disagree on what Scripture says."
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How come there are presbyterians in the non denom forum? it seems like they are trying to pick a fight...
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How come there are presbyterians in the non denom forum? it seems like they are trying to pick a fight...
I'm here because I am a supermoderator and it is my job to go around reading etc. and because I felt like posting. There is no rule against people posting out of their forums for crying out loud.

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Anyway what did u mean by "We simply disagree on what Scripture says."
E.g., Baptists believe that the Bible teaches credobaptism and Presbyterians believe it teaches paedobaptism, etc.
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Maybe I should go post in an RCC thread :klol: :kwink:
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How come there are presbyterians in the non denom forum?
Actually, I go to a non-denom church: http://www.faithbibleohio.com

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it seems like they are trying to pick a fight...
Not really - trying to clear up a misunderstanding. Non-denominationals aren't any less denominational than denominations are - they simply take denominationalism to its extreme.
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