["BrooksB"]

I liked I am Sam. I wouldn't put it in my personal top 10 (obviously because it isn't in there), but I still thought it was a pretty decent flick. What I don't get is how you pull "pseudo-intellectual" out of that?? It doesn't seem like it's trying to be intellectual at all, just emotional. Could you point out details from the movie to prove your statement?

[Nathanael]

VictoryRose
...you aren't really concerned with cinema that has any true merit. That is why I was perplexed by your choice of I Am Sam. Where as this Film doesn't really gain any, it certainly tries. It comes up with a truly sappy excuse for a movie. I understand the popcorn movies, to each his own, but the psuedo-intellectual films have to go.

You strike me as pretentious yourself, I'd like to know what you mean by that.

[Sean]

Originally posted by kupcguitarkid

4. Lord of the Rings - The Two Towers - No explanation necessary

The first one was much better, you must explain.

[benj]

Originally posted by VictoryRose

Waking Life - Richard Linklater

I have seen this. Quite trippy. Interesting though. Not a top movie for me, necessarily.

[VictoryRose]

Originally posted by VictoryRose
M - Fritz Lang
Waking Life - Richard Linklater
Eraserhead - David Lynch
Happiness - Todd Solondz
L.I.E. - Michael Cuesta
Gengis Blues - Roko Belic
Rio Bravo - Howard Hawks
The Killing - Stanely Kubrick
The Way of the Gun - Christopher McQuarrie
Plerrot Le Fou - Jean Luc Godard

These are in no particular order. I hate catogorizing art. I hate those who try to. These are also my favourite right now, it changes constantly. Comment please.

M - Fritz Lang
Waking Life - Richard Linklater
Eraserhead - David Lynch
Happiness - Todd Solondz
L.I.E. - Michael Cuesta
Gengis Blues - Roko Belic
Rio Bravo - Howard Hawks
The Killing - Stanely Kubrick
The Way of the Gun - Christopher McQuarrie
Plerrot Le Fou - Jean Luc Godard
Kiss of the Spider Woman - Hector Babenco

I just saw this tonight and I'm sure that it has made my list. I need advise as to what I should dismiss. And everyone who likes good artistic movies should see it.

[Zooropa]

Originally posted by VictoryRose
I need advise as to what I should dismiss.

Get rid of the David Lynch movie. Because David Lynch is insane.

[VictoryRose]

Originally posted by Zooropa
Get rid of the David Lynch movie. Because David Lynch is insane.

Andy your insane, I need your help silly.

[Sean]

Originally posted by Zooropa
Get rid of the David Lynch movie. Because David Lynch is insane.

What are you talking about? David Lynch films make sense and aren't weird at all. I thought Mulholland Drive was a bit too predictable myself.

["BrooksB"]

So what is it again that's pseudo-intellectual about I am Sam? Still waiting for response...

["BrooksB"]

Originally posted by BrooksieBoy
I liked I am Sam. I wouldn't put it in my personal top 10 (obviously because it isn't in there), but I still thought it was a pretty decent flick. What I don't get is how you pull "pseudo-intellectual" out of that?? It doesn't seem like it's trying to be intellectual at all, just emotional. Could you point out details from the movie to prove your statement?

Btw, here is my actual response.

[VictoryRose]

Originally posted by BrooksieBoy
So what is it again that's pseudo-intellectual about I am Sam? Still waiting for response...

I thought that that would be kind of obvious. Sean Penn playing a retarded father, trying to save his daughter from being taken away, enter Ms. Phiffer as lawyer to be made to help. That is obviously trying to be a movie nominated for awards. It was designed to draw in two demographics those who would like to consider themselves intellectual and emotional, heart strings getting pulled people. I said it was pseudo-intellectual due to the fact that it came of as forced, sappy, corny, and poorly made. Most of that first demographic would say that it was kind of trying to appeal to them and failed. It was a movie that tried to be kind of intellectual and failed at it. Does that clear things up Brooksie Baby? I can field more questions if needed.

[slap_j]

Originally posted by VictoryRose
I thought that that would be kind of obvious. Sean Penn playing a retarded father, trying to save his daughter from being taken away, enter Ms. Phiffer as lawyer to be made to help. That is obviously trying to be a movie nominated for awards. It was designed to draw in two demographics those who would like to consider themselves intellectual and emotional, heart strings getting pulled people. I said it was pseudo-intellectual due to the fact that it came of as forced, sappy, corny, and poorly made. Most of that first demographic would say that it was kind of trying to appeal to them and failed. It was a movie that tried to be kind of intellectual and failed at it. Does that clear things up Brooksie Baby? I can field more questions if needed.

So reags isn't allowed to like I Am Sam? You did say, "the psuedo-intellectual films have to go".

[Yojimbo]

You evil, EVIL people. I said NO discussion in the Top Ten Films thread. So all your Sean Penn bashing will just have to go in its own thread.


BTW, I'm very disappointed with the many numbers of Jerry Bruckheimer-associated fils on top ten lists. Sure, "Crimson Tide" was good...but "Black Hawk Down" and "The Rock"?



One thing to note...favorite movies do not necessarily have to be the most deepest, intellectual movies. For example, I like the movie "Patton". I own the DVD. I think George C. Scott is a fantastic actor. At the same time, as far as movie entertainment goes, I might put "Speed" on equal footing even though most of it takes place on a bus commandeered by Keanu "Dude" Reeves and Sandra Bullock. That's because "Speed" does a very good job using the media of cinema to entertain and to captivaite. Intellectual depth is not the only measure of a movie, since movies are part sound (since "The Jazz Singer") , part style, and part visual.

[outlawnemesis]

Originally posted by VictoryRose
I thought that that would be kind of obvious. Sean Penn playing a retarded father, trying to save his daughter from being taken away, enter Ms. Phiffer as lawyer to be made to help. That is obviously trying to be a movie nominated for awards. It was designed to draw in two demographics those who would like to consider themselves intellectual and emotional, heart strings getting pulled people. I said it was pseudo-intellectual due to the fact that it came of as forced, sappy, corny, and poorly made. Most of that first demographic would say that it was kind of trying to appeal to them and failed. It was a movie that tried to be kind of intellectual and failed at it. Does that clear things up Brooksie Baby? I can field more questions if needed.

I didn't think the movie was that bad.

[Zooropa]

So who has updated their top 10 lists recently? I added "Vertigo" and "Blue Velvet" and deleted "Raging Bull". Everyone watch "Vertigo" it rules.