[Zooropa]

Originally posted by slap_j
Mr. Brown.....Quentin Tarantino

I wish he would've gotten more screen time. Am I the only one who enjoys seeing Tarantino act?

[Sean]

Originally posted by Zooropa
I wish he would've gotten more screen time. Am I the only one who enjoys seeing Tarantino act?

I really really enjoyed his parts in Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, but his parts really didn't require much of him. I could easily see how more Quentin could make for a very bad thing. Then again, he hasn't really had any big parts that I know of. Perhaps he would shine through if he had one.

[SenorPapaCabasa]

I just got the older movie "The Driver"...... containing arguably the best car chase scene ever.......

[slap_j]

Originally posted by Zooropa
I wish he would've gotten more screen time. Am I the only one who enjoys seeing Tarantino act?

I think he's pretty funny. What he said about his color coded name, Mr. Brown, in Reservoir Dogs. And in Pulp Fiction when he asked Jules if he saw a certian, not to be mentioned here on CGR, sign out in front of his house. And everyone loved his coffee.

[Yojimbo]

I've only seen him in Pulp Fiction, and based on how annoying his overaccting was, I would prefer not to see him onscreen ever again. Directors tend to do badly in their own films, and I don't think Quentin "let's-see-how-many-times-I-can-use-the-word-'______'-in-the-face-of-a-superior-black-actor" Tarantino avoids the trend.

[slap_j]

Originally posted by Goodness
Quentin "let's-see-how-many-times-I-can-use-the-word-'______'-in-the-face-of-a-superior-black-actor" Tarantino avoids the trend.

In both Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs, that word is used quite a bit. They use it mostly to say how white criminals or drug dealers or whatever are better than black ones. Like in Pulp Fiction when Vincent is buying heroin and wonders about the quality the drug dealer is like, "what am I, a ______?". And in Reservoir Dogs when Mr. White and Mr. Blonde are fighting Mr. Pink breaks them up and tells them they're acting like a bunch of ______s. This isn't racism on Mr. Tarantino's part, but it is realistic. I've noticed that white thugs that aren't affiliated with black ones refer to them as ______s quite a bit. Black people even refer to themselves as ______s in my experience. Like in Pulp Fiction when Marcellus is talking about toruturing the rapist who Butch saved him from, he says he gonna get some hardcore pipe-hitting ______s to go to work on the guy with some pliers and blow-torches. But it has also been my experience that the more educated a person is (either race) they tend to stay away from such words. You can be realistic in a movie or patronize the audience, no matter if the movie is saying faggot in an offensive way or ______ in an offensive way. Many people say faggot and ______, especially criminals.

[Sean]

Originally posted by slap_j
In both Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs, that word is used quite a bit.

Its used a whole lot in Jackie Brown too.

This isn't racism on Mr. Tarantino's part, but it is realistic. I've noticed that white thugs that aren't affiliated with black ones refer to them as ______s quite a bit.

I didn't realize you were a drug dealing pimp with first hand experience with thugs.

You can be realistic in a movie or patronize the audience, no matter if the movie is saying faggot in an offensive way or ______ in an offensive way.

Exactly. Its a movie. Maybe he was trying to offend black people, but I seriously doubt that. I can't speak for criminals, but I have cousins who say such words fluently in conversation. Its a bit ackward for me to listen to or be affliated with in public. Actually maybe my cousins are criminals.

Many people say faggot and ______, especially criminals.

Where do you hang out with all these criminals?

[slap_j]

Originally posted by AtlasShrugs
I didn't realize you were a drug dealing pimp with first hand experience with thugs.

Where do you hang out with all these criminals?

I am a drug dealin' pimp, so you'd better step off, fool. Actually there were a fwe gangs around my area. Louisville KY is a big gang area. Lots of bloods have appeared there in the recent years and so the gangs moved down to the little bit smaller city of Lexington which is right next to where I lived. There was some periphery gang activity in my area, so lots of recruits in my high school. Lots of drug dealing here too, since we are the marijuana capital of the US (maybe, we grow a hell of a lot).

[slap_j]

So, here's what I thought of Goodfellas.

That first scene suprised me. The only memory of Joe Pesci I had before Goodfellas was him as the loser thug in home alone. **SPOILER**That image was shattered as he opened the trunk of Henry's car and stabbed the guy in there over and over again while imploring him to die...in a pretty vulgar manner. Apparently he didn't do good enough because Robert De Niro had to fire two rounds into the guy after that. This began my descent into the vulgar, violent, and utterly spellbinding world of the wiseguys. It was a long and fully entertaining film, and apparently pretty realistic from what I've heard. The realism of the film really showed in its ending, when after a second chance at life in the witness protection program, Henry Hill still regarded himself as a schnook and wished he were back in the life of a wiseguy...a goodfella.

My only problem was that the stupid DVD had to be flipped over in the middle of the movie. Ugh. Really no big deal considering the quality of this film.

[Zooropa]

I'm not a big fan of "Goodfellas." The best thing Scrorsese gave us with this film was the innovative camera work. Also, I could tell how hugely influential "Goodfellas" was to P.T. Anderson's "Boogie Nights." PTA even admits to ripping off Scorsese a bit, which he did. I prefer "Boogie Nights" myself.

[slap_j]

Originally posted by Zooropa
I'm not a big fan of "Goodfellas." The best thing Scrorsese gave us with this film was the innovative camera work. Also, I could tell how hugely influential "Goodfellas" was to P.T. Anderson's "Boogie Nights." PTA even admits to ripping off Scorsese a bit, which he did. I prefer "Boogie Nights" myself.

I like the scene where the camera follows Henry and Karen into the Copacabana from when they step out of the car, across the street, into the back enterance, past security, through the kitchen, and to the front of the place without cutting away.

[Yojimbo]

Originally posted by slap_j
In both Pulp Fiction and Reservoir Dogs, that word is used quite a bit. They use it mostly to say how white criminals or drug dealers or whatever are better than black ones. Like in Pulp Fiction when Vincent is buying heroin and wonders about the quality the drug dealer is like, "what am I, a ______?". And in Reservoir Dogs when Mr. White and Mr. Blonde are fighting Mr. Pink breaks them up and tells them they're acting like a bunch of ______s. This isn't racism on Mr. Tarantino's part, but it is realistic. I've noticed that white thugs that aren't affiliated with black ones refer to them as ______s quite a bit. Black people even refer to themselves as ______s in my experience. Like in Pulp Fiction when Marcellus is talking about toruturing the rapist who Butch saved him from, he says he gonna get some hardcore pipe-hitting ______s to go to work on the guy with some pliers and blow-torches. But it has also been my experience that the more educated a person is (either race) they tend to stay away from such words. You can be realistic in a movie or patronize the audience, no matter if the movie is saying faggot in an offensive way or ______ in an offensive way. Many people say faggot and ______, especially criminals.

I never mentioned anything explicitly about racism. I just said it was over-the-top in a bad way, and rather unbelievable. First of all, blacks use "______" in reference to each other because they are in the same group and can identify with the connatation of oppresion in that term--something a non-black person can only understand periphally. Same thing with homosexuals calling themselves "queer". Secondly, Taratino doesn't play a thug from the ghetto. He plays a neurotic white boy in suburbia America, hence, my immediate skepticism.

[slap_j]

Originally posted by Goodness
I never mentioned anything explicitly about racism. I just said it was over-the-top in a bad way, and rather unbelievable. First of all, blacks use "______" in reference to each other because they are in the same group and can identify with the connatation of oppresion in that term--something a non-black person can only understand periphally. Same thing with homosexuals calling themselves "queer". Secondly, Taratino doesn't play a thug from the ghetto. He plays a neurotic white boy in suburbia America, hence, my immediate skepticism.

Who knows how QT's chatacter in Pulp Fiction is related to Jules. Also, even if he was just a "neurotic white boy in suburbia America" many suburban people call members of the black race ______ interchangeably with black. I live around that stuff. Both sides of my family are kinda racist actually. Luckily I am not. When I was in 5th to 6th grade my mom dated a black man for a few years and I loved that guy, and it taught me respect and racial tolerance and all of that good stuff. It never worked out because his family and my family were racist. He was really cool though. Anyway, I understand how it is used and I don't like it no matter who uses it. If ______ were really accepted within the black race, why do some take offense to it? It doesn't make sense to me.

[reags]

Originally posted by Goodness
I never mentioned anything explicitly about racism. I just said it was over-the-top in a bad way, and rather unbelievable. First of all, blacks use "______" in reference to each other because they are in the same group and can identify with the connatation of oppresion in that term--something a non-black person can only understand periphally..

oooo yea Rush Hour :klol:

[Yojimbo]

Originally posted by slap_j
If ______ were really accepted within the black race, why do some take offense to it? It doesn't make sense to me.

The thing is that "______" has a connotation dependent on the person who uses it. Is it possible that QT's character is such a person that can use the word "______" and not be a fraud (such as a farm boy who wears FUBU)? Possibly, but that was not inherent in his sneering performance.