[+Donny]

Any opinions on which is better?

[deedeeshell]

as someone who has done both...I would say it depends on the kid...and the school...

I'll comment more when it isn't 12:30 at night...i need to go to bed.

[waqi13]

home schooling takes away important social skills, and could leeve kids unable to intereact socially with otheres their age, and not having friends because they never meet anyone. this cxan also work inreverse and be the reason for home schooling, not wanting kids to be with these druggos, idiotics, time wasters or who wil soon go and live on the doll [government payments] and spend the day surfing. which is understandable.

what do u meen by home scholing? is it parents teaching or a personal tutor type thing.

i also no gorernments dicourage home schooling for some reason or another but it can be hard to bw able to do it, and with systems where certain standards need to be meant through examinations home schooling can also be difficult.

home schholling allows more control on what is tought, and i suppose christian wise with a christian perspective. i personally dont like this because i think it will give children an unrealistic experience thinking the world is mostly christian and do the same sort of thigns they do, it creates a lack in social skills,-sure they will meet kids at church but they are christian and i dont like alienating ones self from the world[hek we are meant to spread it not contain it] or they may meet cousin and family but that too is controlled by the fact u gotta love family kidna thing. even if it is a christian skool there are still kids who have chrsitian parents and havent found christ yet if yah know what i mean, hence i just realised yu asked about christian skools not jsut publis skools and i think kristian skools also have a problem with a flase sense of secruity, i kant think of the word, in thinking that christians are everywhere and a huge shok occurs when they then see the 'darker' sides of the world in drugs etc are actually quite common

home schooling could not offer the same things as actual schools because they wont ahve science labs for science experiments or cooking labs for cooking[although this could be met in the home itchen i suppose].

for home scholling is things that cant be offered at school, more attention to progress etc and mocing at a suitable pace for the individual. subjects can be taught in different ways like maths done at the supermarket, or lesons on art at the museum or lessons on cars at the local mechanis or soemthing, school can offer some excursions but often not a real lot and then u dont get much time etc so yeh..

being in a school also allows for cultural lerning, intereacting with pplef from differing cultures can be very interesting.

[Elizabeth]

Originally posted by waqi13
home schooling takes away important social skills, and could leeve kids unable to intereact socially with otheres their age, and not having friends because they never meet anyone.

Um, I actually disprove your first statement. I am almost 18, have been homeschooled almost my entire life, and I have about a gazillion friends of all ages, girls and guys. I am usually home all day one day a week. I know there are some homeschoolers with no social life, but generally, if you want one, you can have one.

home schholling allows more control on what is tought, and i suppose christian wise with a christian perspective. i personally dont like this because i think it will give children an unrealistic experience thinking the world is mostly christian and do the same sort of thigns they do, it creates a lack in social skills,-sure they will meet kids at church but they are christian and i dont like alienating ones self from the world[hek we are meant to spread it not contain it] or they may meet cousin and family but that too is controlled by the fact u gotta love family kidna thing.

If you're teaching from a Christian perspective, you can teach your kids how to refute the false teachings of the world.

home schooling could not offer the same things as actual schools because they wont ahve science labs for science experiments or cooking labs for cooking[although this could be met in the home itchen i suppose].

I took biology (ick) a couple years ago...did all my dissecting on the kitchen table. I also have been in/am currently involved in art, choir, orchestra, etc.

I hope I didn't come off as too defensive--there are lots of homeschoolers/former homeschoolers around here, and I think if you get to know us, you'll find that we're pretty normal people.

Oh, and in response to Donny's question, I think it depends on the kid.

[Travis]

That would obviously depend on the competence of the teacher(s) (parent or parents) and the quality of the schools...

And btw, can we skip the typical stereotypes of homeschool kids as sheltered, ignorant, loners who have no social skills? We all know that there are people who meet that desciption that go to public school, private school, and homeschool and that examples of the opposite exist in all three places as well.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

I was homeschooled and ended up being an inteligent, popular fiend! I was about as low as you could go. So no, we aren't all naive, or sheltered. However, given my kamikaze tendencies in HS. I think I would have messed my life up worse.

[Bryan]

I don't like homeschooling because there is far more to going to school than just learning academics or getting good grades. School is also for learning how to develop friendships, interact with other people, interact with people of different faiths, learning to get along with people you don't like, comraderie, putting up with mean teachers. The real world is far more ruthless than school is, and public/christian schools help better prepare students for this than home schooling. I'm not saying that one cannot develop these skills with home schooling, it's just much harder to do because your contact with other children your age is less than in a public/private schools.

I personally don't like either private schools. I think it is a waste of money when you have a public school you can go to. And more and more towns are moving to the policy that you can go to any school in the district. Highschool isn't where the real learning happens, that is in college. Highschool is more for developing social skills and learning to deal with the annoyances in life.

[waqi13]

i can relate to the biology part, lol, i had to cut a rat yesserday but couldnt bring myself to do it, meenwhile others were walkin around with heads and tails and arghhh yuk!

i am sorry i didtn mean to mean everyone , but it is an abvious thing that social skills can suffer, really it is obvious. from what yu said yu only were at home one day a week [?] so this sint what i meant really, i guess i was taking the 'worst' case of complete home schooling.

what i mean is that if you teach kids who stay in the home 24/7 they wont know what the world i really likke, can u see my point?[just wondering if i make sense or not] this is even with other kids ie my cousins who go to a publis school but then dont do much else outside that that isnt fam or church irientated dont know the things with alcohol, drugs, crime etc in the world because their parents ahve bought them up in a very christian environment which is good in theory but in practice sheltering them means they dont sorta understand what the world is like and can only relate to thier own experience which doesnt incude this. of course it sounds nice not knowing but it only makes ignorance and naivity.

i am sorry if i gave the impression of sheltered and naive or anything i really didnt mean to say that...........

"And btw, can we skip the typical stereotypes of homeschool kids as sheltered, ignorant, loners who have no social skills? We all know that there are people who meet that desciption that go to public school, private school, and homeschool and that examples of the opposite exist in all three places as well"

but home school doesnt help the first cae kinda thing...

it does depend on the parents alot really.


do you have home school for highschool? if so how do you go about examinations and the like to get recognition of a certain standard?

and if doing hs in hs [if u can pik what it means home scholing and highschool] then you would get a slite shok in colege i imagine?

[Kori]

I will sum up my answer to two single words:
HOME SCHOOL

[TheWanderer]

As a rule I feel (from experience of myself and those around me) that the typical stereotypes exist for a reason...because as a whole they are true.

Of course there are introverts in public, private and home schools, and there are intelligent outgoing kids in all as well. As a whole, I have to say the percentages go along with the stereotypes.

My only problem with home schooling is who teaches it. In Minnesota pretty much anyone can teach in home schooling, whether qualified or not, and that is wrong, wrong, wrong. The teacher should actually have to know what they are teaching.

The social aspect of school is lost on home schooling, it is out there to be had via community sports programs and things like that, but it has to be proactively aquired it isn't a native part of your existance, and I think that is a big difference.

That said, I have seen good and bad people come out of all types of schooling. But I have also seen kids come out of home schooling, while maybe intelligent, they are totally lost in the world around them.

[BillSPrestonEsq]

Wanderer,
Your complaint would be valid, if home schoolers didnt have such higher SAT's etc. Both my parents had Master's degrees. (though neither use them)

"I don't like homeschooling because there is far more to going to school than just learning academics or getting good grades. School is also for learning how to develop friendships, interact with other people, interact with people of different faiths, learning to get along with people you don't like, comraderie, putting up with mean teachers. The real world is far more ruthless than school is, and public/christian schools help better prepare students for this than home schooling. I'm not saying that one cannot develop these skills with home schooling, it's just much harder to do because your contact with other children your age is less than in a public/private schools."

Lets put it this way. High school doesn't prepare you for life. Not one stinking little bit. No Id say this is the popular misconception, but while me and my bro lived in the same dorm for a semester, noone knew we were homeschooled, or brothers. Our rooms were the social hangouts, so obviously we do ok. I am most often recognized for my computer and people skills, so I must not be too deficient.

[brown07]

Originally posted by Bryan
I personally don't like either private schools. I think it is a waste of money when you have a public school you can go to. And more and more towns are moving to the policy that you can go to any school in the district. Highschool isn't where the real learning happens, that is in college. Highschool is more for developing social skills and learning to deal with the annoyances in life.

Wrongo.

1) If there's no real learning going on in high school, there are some serious problems, and you should probably find a good private school to go to (not all private schools are any better than a good public school).

2) The investment of money is well-worth it. My parents spent about $20,000 sending me to a private high school. That's a lot of dough. However, they saved abour $80,000 on my undergrad and I saved about $40,000 on my grad school because I got academic scholarships (which I wouldn't have gotten had I gone to my public school). I additionally got about $20,000 in spending money on top of all that from my scholarship. So, let's see, quick ROI calculation in my head... Return on the private school investment = 700%. Not bad. I'll take that kind of return any day.

3) If the public school is lacking (and mine clearly was), finding a good private school is a great way to go.

[TheWanderer]

Originally posted by BillSPrestonEsq
Wanderer,
Your complaint would be valid, if home schoolers didnt have such higher SAT's etc. Both my parents had Master's degrees. (though neither use them)

Actually, with or without your parents brilliance my "complaint" (which it wasn't a complaint, it was an opinion based on my exposure) is perfectly valid. People can be as smart and as educted as they want, that does NOT qualify them to teach. The art of teaching is a completely different thing.

And that said, I was not, nor did I ever say that "everyone from anywhere was like this", I clearly stated that this was my experience with it based on people I knew. I knowa lady teach her kids at home that barely got out of high school her self. While raising two wonder, well-behaved kids, they are not being properly educated, and they ARE, in fact social outcasts in their community because of lack of social skills and the ability to communicate.

Likewise, I also know people that rocked the SATs when I was in school and they are now driving cabs, working at low-pay jobs and such. The only measure of a person is NOT their overall IQ, but their ability to successfully use it in the real world. Though the high intelligence puts you in a better position, it alone is not a ticket to success.

I never said any school was better than another...The fact you are in a better situation than most kids I know in no way makes my "complaint" invalid. Which, again, was not a complaint, it was a viewpoint and I am personally uphauled that anyone has their "opinion" declared invalid by any other person.

[Ridley's Own]

Several things:

1. If you are going to homeschool your kid, you need to have the same qualifications and certifications anyother teacher would have. And yes, I think this should be required by state law.

2. If you send your child to a Christian School, please make sure it is accredited. I know people who went to a non-accredited Christian high school and couldn't get in to any colleges because they weren't accredited by SACS.

3. SAT scores are NOT a test that determines how much you have learned, only what you are capable of learning. Hence the name "Scholastic Aptitude Test." Secondly, one of the reasons homeschool kids have higher scores is not necessarily the quality of education being taught, but the quantity of time spent with instructors. It is certainly arguable (and probably right) that the majority of problems with public education would be solved if the schools themselves were smaller, schools were controlled locally by elected school boards, and both students and teachers were held rigorously to state and, in a broader sense, national testing standards. Part of the reason private schools (Christian or otherwise) succeed so well is that they have a larger monies spent per pupil ratio than a public school can ever dream to afford. That, combined with a social sense of competition and better student-teacher interaction, is part of the reason private schools perform better than public ones.

4. I think the socially-well adjusted homeschool products are the exception that proves the rule, esp. in my admittedly limited personal experience. The fact is that while you may have a gazillion friends, I had a gazillion friends that were Hindu, Catholic, socialist, redneck, rich, poor, black, white, immigrants, conservative, gay, etc. I learned to interact with people I am often times totally different from, and still remain in a working relationship with them. And I cannot conceive of such a situation being available to homeschoolers, where the movement is dominated by conservative Christian evangelicals.

5. There is a personal sense, in my largely plebeian upbringing, that those who send their kids to private schools of any stripe are some how 'better' than those of us who were publically educated. While I have less of a philosophical problem with people sending their kids to Christian schools, I am also determined to make sure my kids see the whole gambit of the socio-economic spectrum.

[TheWanderer]

Originally posted by Bryan
I personally don't like either private schools. I think it is a waste of money when you have a public school you can go to. And more and more towns are moving to the policy that you can go to any school in the district. Highschool isn't where the real learning happens, that is in college. Highschool is more for developing social skills and learning to deal with the annoyances in life.

You are perfectly within your rights to dislike private schools. Personally, I am glad my parents took me out of my local public school anbd put me in a private one those many years ago. My local public school was horrible, I was still social in my local community and watched everyone grow up just as I did. Now, we are all in our middle 30's and with the exception of a few most of the people that stayed in public schools are now in jail, working at fast-food places, addicted to drinking and/or drugs or dead. Just generally going nowhere, doing nothing and raising their kids to do the same.

I recently moved back into the area, and have enroled my kids (or, the one that's old enough) into the same private school I went to. Waste of money? Heck no, getting my kids a better education in a smaller environment with more supervision is the best money I will ever spend.

Given my attitude and motivation level back then, if I would have stayed in public school I would have wound up like most of the others did.

There is a personal sense, in my largely plebeian upbringing, that those who send their kids to private schools of any stripe are some how 'better' than those of us who were publically educated. While I have less of a philosophical problem with people sending their kids to Christian schools, I am also determined to make sure my kids see the whole gambit of the socio-economic spectrum.

That is a valid point, however, that would depend on which school you went to. There are differences between private and parochial (sp?) schools. The high-money private schools can produce a snobby attitude and therefore make problems. There are schools that are not private, but parochial, meaning it is not expensive, but itcosts enough to support itself and is generally operated by a church or a group of churches. These many times produce kids that can become outcasts becasue they are percieved as religious radicals by their public school peers when in fact they may just be there becasue their parents made them, or for the smaller school in hopes of a better education.