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she shouldn't see your house again! 1 10.00%
give her a week's notice 4 40.00%
don't kick her out, let her stay no matter what 0 0%
only let her stay if she repents 3 30.00%
I'll get back to you... must pray first 2 20.00%
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Old 11-23-2002, 05:20 PM   #1
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Unhappy how to confront someone, while kicking them out

Well, this is half prayer, and half advice. My family has taken a woman into our home cause she needed a place to stay till the end of the semester. From the moment she got here she's been nothing but trouble. I could go into that... but it's really not important... you see, after giving her a place to stay, and food to eat, and even driving her to were she needed to be, she has been COMPLETLY ungreatful. At school, she's treated my sister terribly.. she is suposidly a christian... I don't understand it. Finally my family decided to kick her out. and they would like ME to talk to her. :kshock: you see... I've had no problems with this woman, so I have nothing personal against her... and my dad would be too wishy washy, and end up saying a whole lot of nothing. So, she'd be leaving our house, not understanding why. Anyway... I don't know what I should be saying!!! My sister doesn't want her to take another foot in our house. I know that I need to confront her in love, and show her WHY were doing this.

I guess I have to do this tomorrow.. unless my parents change there minds and someone else does it.. lol..

So... prayer will be good... real good... thanks

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Old 11-23-2002, 05:24 PM   #2
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oh,.. could a mod change the first option in the poll?? it should be SHOULDN'T...

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Old 11-23-2002, 08:17 PM   #3
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I would talk to her, if i were you. (if it's not to late now). Just do it in love. You know what's going on, though she's done nothing to you. Just be honest and pray before you do it.:kcool:
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Old 11-23-2002, 08:24 PM   #4
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well yo me none of those choices should really applie I agree with everyone else sit here down and talk tell her the truth and everything like that
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Old 11-24-2002, 01:29 AM   #5
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well yo me none of those choices should really applie I agree with everyone else sit here down and talk tell her the truth and everything like that
that'a kinda what i was thinking...

just be honest about what's going on. maybe i'm wrong but imo if you're honest and she takes it wrong it's not your fault. i might say something along the lines of hey look this isn't working out very well. and tell her why. i'd just be honest and upfront but not brutally honest.
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Old 11-25-2002, 12:51 AM   #6
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Well remind your dad of this...

Luke 6
27 "But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
29 "Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your coat, do not withhold your shirt from him either.
30 "Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back.
31 "Treat others the same way you want them to treat you.
32 "If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them.
33 "If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same.
34 "If you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners in order to receive back the same amount.
35 "But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men.
36 "Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
37 "Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned.
38 "Give, and it will be given to you. They will pour into your lap a good measure--pressed down, shaken together, and running over. For by your standard of measure it will be measured to you in return."

But then he also has to man up and give her some gentle admonishment as well as share his conscerns. Cutting off without chance of repentance is unrighteous, it's way is that of darkness with no light being shed on the issue through open, honest, loving discussion. Continuing these actions will only bring more hurt and problems, but one can not fear any issues that may come of attempts to resolve it rather than cut it off. If there is any sort of backlash from reproof of her actions, it would only because they allowed it to go on for so long in secrecy, giving the devil a foothold as seen here...

Ephesians 4
25 Therefore, laying aside falsehood, SPEAK TRUTH EACH ONE of you WITH HIS NEIGHBOR, for we are members of one another.
26 BE ANGRY, AND yet DO NOT SIN; do not let the sun go down on your anger,
27 and do not give the devil an opportunity.
28 He who steals must steal no longer; but rather he must labor, performing with his own hands what is good, so that he will have something to share with one who has need.
29 Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.
30 Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
31 Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice.
32 Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you.

Yet, if there is fault on both sides and this happens (as it did here) then the solution is the same as the prevention for both sides...

Ephesians 4
1 Therefore I, the prisoner of the Lord, implore you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called,
2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing tolerance for one another in love,
3 being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

Both sides need to be corrected for their wrong actions, Becky I recommend you to share this and these passages with your parents. From what I have heard they are not people to toss aside the word of God, and you will be blessed for being the peacemaker in this situation, and recognized as a true child of God. Just make it clear you do not speak of your own authority, but out of love by Christ's call upon your life. Showing all the fruit of the Spirit as you do it.

Galatians 5
13 For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.
14 For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."
15 But if you bite and devour one another, take care that you are not consumed by one another.
16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.
17 For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please.
18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law.
19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality,
20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions,
21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.
26 Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another

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Old 11-25-2002, 12:19 PM   #7
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and now.... the rest of the story....

it is finished. all is done. I pray we did the right thing.

My sister brought it up before our church (house church... only a few people). We came to a complete consencis. Everyone agreed what we should do. One of the men (who I can tell now will make a great elder.. ), offered to stay with us, he's good at speaking the truth in love... and would help mediate it and all.... My sister left before our house gust arived back. It might have turned out better if she was there, but then... knowing how hurt and angered she was by it..... it probably wouldn't help the woman. Now, when the guy from our church decided to stay, I decided I was out of a job :-D no reason for me to do that with him there I was planing on staying in there though... but the moment the woman walked in the door.... I couldn't. I didn't want any part in it. I knew that it had to be done, but I couldn't do it. :knope: couldn't even see it happen.
Oh, before she arived we called her leader in the church... he told us we were doing the right thing. (btw... she has a church of 300.. we aren't exactly leaving her stranded... the church actually has sister houses... so she can go to one of those to live if she'd wanted to...)
My parents handled it quite well. They didn't tell her she needed to leave till everything else was said and done. The talked it out... I heared only peaces of it (almost everything the woman said, cause she's loud)... and from the beginning she was deffencive. After my parents told her they wanted to talk to her... and before they said anything else, she said "if you are going to accuse me I'm getting a tape recorder! cause I want to remember what I was accused of!"... She practicly called my sister a liar. And it took forever for them to get her to admit that she'd done what my sis said she did. By the time the conversation was over, she'd revealed to us that it's her belief that just cause she has disabilitys, means that she has no responsibility to treat us with respect. We should be pampering her, and she shouldn't need to try being nice and all. She is tottally ungreatful to us. If she wasn't a christian, then I'd say we should have let her stay. But as a christian, she needs to learn a few things.

I feel so bad for her. Not cause she has to be out by wednesday, but because she is so stubern that she can't see her own sin. So easy to point at others, but can't look at herself. God's going to have to let her be draged into alot of dirt before she learns. :ksad:
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Old 11-25-2002, 03:06 PM   #8
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I think you did fine. Just pray about it. I think you were honest and no matter what she says, she knows.:kyep:
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