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Unread 12-12-2002, 01:07 AM   #61
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Fender? Why in the world would you want one of those?
because they are good...:kstare:

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Unread 12-12-2002, 09:38 AM   #62
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As I've said, I have a Fender Telecaster, Standard (Mexican-made) edition, and since I shielded it well with copper tape (probably within minutes or hours of leaving the store with it), I really have no complaints. Nice, hot ceramic pickups (I'm not quite yet into the subtleties of Alnico on the American models, but maybe someday) and an incredible tonal range. And only a Les Paul will sustain longer than a Tele, but mine is a string-through bridge, and so even sustain becomes debatable. What it really boils down to is the single-coil tone vs. humbucker tone and the quality of that tone in each case. I like both, but decided that the single-coil would be my first guitar, and later (when fundage comes) I will procure a LP-designed guitar.

If I were a true purist, I'd have a G&L ASAT. That's a real Fender Telecaster. But they cost a ton more than their Fender counterpart (and probably with some decent reasons). For a humbucker, I'll be going with The Heritage, which builds guitars in Kalamazoo, MI in the old Gibson factory, built by hand by old Gibson luthiers who refused to move to Nashville. IMO, those are the real Les Paul guitars, and just to think that they cost quite a bit less, on average, than today's Gibson-brand guitars...

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Unread 12-12-2002, 11:04 AM   #63
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Ok there tiger, 750 dollars is alot of money, especially when you don't have a job lol
I don't have a steady job (mowing lawns) and I don't think it's expensive. Not considering what you get. You get a guitar that will last a LONG time. And sound good for a LONG time.

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Why? Lower end Ibanez necks tend to warp. They don't have as good of tone as fendr standards, thier pickups are worse and they don't feel as good.

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Unread 12-12-2002, 11:23 AM   #64
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I have a steady job AND my wife has a steady job and I can tell you that $750 goes to buy groceries in our house. A $750 guitar-gear purchase is one that I have to take at the very least 1 year (sometimes more) of saving my "fun money" to make.

For those who aren't wealthy, I'd be willing to bet that the only ones of us who are able to plunk down $750 like "that" are ones of us who have our food, clothing, shelter, etc. paid for by someone else.

All this doesn't mean that I buy cheap junk when I go shopping. Just the opposite! I do a lot of hands-on research and I make sure that my money will be well-spent. It wasn't that difficult for me to decide that the TS-7 Tubescreamer (an overdrive pedal is the guitar purchase I've got in my sights right now) just isn't going to cut it for me, even though it's at least $60 cheaper than the other one's I've looked at. My ears could tell that it took away from clean tone, and that's that. Anyways, my point is that although $750 IS A BIG DEAL to me, moneywise, I won't put up with cheap junk. Instead, I really think about what I'm going to buy and then I evaluate what level of performance I can live with, and then I save up until I can buy that level of performance.

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Unread 12-12-2002, 04:28 PM   #65
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I definitely think that the tele looks nicer, but that is just a style thing...
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Unread 12-12-2002, 05:38 PM   #66
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I have a steady job AND my wife has a steady job and I can tell you that $750 goes to buy groceries in our house. A $750 guitar-gear purchase is one that I have to take at the very least 1 year (sometimes more) of saving my "fun money" to make.

For those who aren't wealthy, I'd be willing to bet that the only ones of us who are able to plunk down $750 like "that" are ones of us who have our food, clothing, shelter, etc. paid for by someone else.

All this doesn't mean that I buy cheap junk when I go shopping. Just the opposite! I do a lot of hands-on research and I make sure that my money will be well-spent. It wasn't that difficult for me to decide that the TS-7 Tubescreamer (an overdrive pedal is the guitar purchase I've got in my sights right now) just isn't going to cut it for me, even though it's at least $60 cheaper than the other one's I've looked at. My ears could tell that it took away from clean tone, and that's that. Anyways, my point is that although $750 IS A BIG DEAL to me, moneywise, I won't put up with cheap junk. Instead, I really think about what I'm going to buy and then I evaluate what level of performance I can live with, and then I save up until I can buy that level of performance.

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Ok, what I meant was that it wasn't expensive for a guitar. You pay more and you get more. I do think 750 is alot of money but 99% of the time when you pay $750 for a guitar, you get something that is going to give you at least $750 of playing.

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Unread 12-12-2002, 07:31 PM   #67
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I can't believe this.

People talking about how a Tele is heavy? Not even Les Paul's are heavy to me.

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Well, how long do you play them standing? I don't think a tele's heavy, but an LP, that's another story.

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Unread 12-13-2002, 08:16 PM   #69
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I don't have a steady job (mowing lawns) and I don't think it's expensive. Not considering what you get. You get a guitar that will last a LONG time. And sound good for a LONG time.



Why? Lower end Ibanez necks tend to warp. They don't have as good of tone as fendr standards, thier pickups are worse and they don't feel as good.

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I to mow one lawn, and ya it has its good pay. And I still think its expensive. But I also belive you should save your money in order to get something that will last a long time and you wont go out the next day.

Why, because I like Ibanez. They tend to warp, were did you hear this? Tone, well it depends on what kind of tone your looking for. Most Ibanez guitars dont have pickups they have humbuckers for that rockier, crispier tone. I probably wont buy one but I need a new guitar for next christmas (I have a squier affinity strat now and have had it for about 2 years lol). This year I'm going to be busy paying off the amp I just got.
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Unread 12-13-2002, 11:34 PM   #70
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Most Ibanez guitars dont have pickups they have humbuckers for that rockier, crispier tone.
you mean they don't have single coil pickups right? all electric guitars have to have pickups...
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Unread 12-14-2002, 01:41 PM   #71
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BUY A P.R.S. THEY ROCK
You paying for it??
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Unread 12-14-2002, 03:12 PM   #73
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Has anyone seen the Squire version of the Telecaster that has an arch-top, no pick guard and two humbuckers. I guess it is supposed to be a telecaster's take on a Les Paul. I haven't played it only seen it looking pretty in a store.
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Unread 12-14-2002, 07:52 PM   #74
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you mean they don't have single coil pickups right? all electric guitars have to have pickups...
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Unread 12-15-2002, 10:51 PM   #75
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P.R.S. guitars aren't all that much, one of my friends got one new for like 400
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