[Ardent1]

Originally posted by MobMan924
Hi.
I'm catholic and I like the NSRV(new revised standerd version)
And for those who are wondering, Yes, catholics read the bible.
God Bless

lol. that's too funny. I'm Catholic and I read the NAV (New American Version) because it's a Catholic Bible.
yeah.

[RJ1]

uhhh...Jude....they do take some stuff out of the NIV when making it easier to understand....some important stuff too

[murman]

The NKJV is my prefered translation. I do tend to use an NIV for some study as I've had it awhile and have many scriptures highlighted.

[Jan Loew]

I use the New American Standard Bible as this is the one my church uses. But I also own four other ones as well. To me religion goes beyond one church, as I have found God to live in many houses.

[LocaMona]

My Bible is a NRSV (New Revised Standard Version)
I am a newbie to this site so sorry if I don't fit-in yet, or sound really dumb. I can't help it I'm still kind of fumbling around in the dark right now. Yeah. I like music. I am trying to teach myself how to play the guitar! (haha! I find that amusing cuz I'm not doing a good job at teaching myself!) I have two guitars. A fender squire acoustic and a fender squire electric. The electric is red and is named "my little hottie" and the acoustic is boring and plain w/out a cutout and hasn't been named yet cuz it's relatively new. If you want you can send me name ideas other than Bob cuz my fish is named Bob and it would be mean to have two Bobs. Plus my squirrel thing is Billy-Bob. Anyway... what was a talking about? Oh! I picked NRSV cuz that's what I'm used to and it works for me cuz we eat what we like or something! Yeah. Thanks!

[heathermiousse]

Howdy!

I vote for the NEW KING JAMES VERSION.
I have grown up in a church and belive that the new king james version is the closest to the real translation, besides the old king james which in some cases is too hard for readers, so we go to the NKJV. I belive it is translated best from the orginal. Other versions someone writes and they water it down and the real meaning that God had intended is lost.!!!!!!

I am new here. I enjoy playing keyboard and guitar. My past time is working and playing and spending time with children of all ages. I work at the public school, i am a sunday school teacher and i run a bible camp. I love working with KIds!!

I hate reglion and just love Jesus!


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[godzpunk]

I chose KJV because it is one of the most accurate English translations. It's about 98% accurate to the Greek while the NIV and other translations repeatedly remove words, phrases, and entire scriptures. They remove words like Jesus, Lord, Christ, God, etc.. And of all things to remove, a section of The Lords Prayer is remved in the NIV. THE LORDS PRAYER! Hello, it's the Lords Prayer, not the NIV prayer! Did you know that the copyright holder of NIV is also the copyright holder to Penthouse?! I've got nothing against people who read the NIV, but don't defend it...I personally like the KJV, and if I don't understand something, I might use the NIV as a reference.

[powwow_jon]

I chose NIV only because i'ts easier to understand but I like the NKJV also when I want to study on a certain thing.

[Supah Fly]

I like the NIV because of the way it flows in it's modern english. The NIV is the most accurate by the thought, but the NAS is most accurate word-for-word.

What really bugs me is the liberal and erroneous use of the word "translation" because the Bible is not a translation, it is an interpretation. A translation is verbatim and would include metaphors and idioms which would not make any sense outside that social setting. An interpretation conveys the same ideas and concepts as the original language intended, but presupposes idioms and metaphors which would be recognised and understood byt the target audience.

You can't talk about corporate law to a farmer and and you can't talk about farming to a neurosurgeon and you can't talk about medical science to a corporate lawyer. Now somebody who had enough knowledge in each of those areas would be able to take anything said by one group and put it into terms the others would understand.

This is how the Bible is today. King James was written in the language and terminology of it's day but is today considered antiquated and archaic and is not easily understood unless you've grown up with it. Now if you were to take the NIV or NAS or NRV back to His Majesty, James VI of Scotland, it would make no sense to him.

For those of you who are not schooled in Medieval Latin and Middle-English, I have prepared the following links in good fun:

For verbatim, click HERE.
For translation, click HERE.
For interpretation, click HERE.

For those who want the abridged version, the link for abridged is HERE.

For those interested in a history of the English Bible as we now know it, check out http://www.bible-history.com/ and for those of you who are looking for some material for other forums may enjoy http://www.av1611.org/ - particularily their exposé on POD - :keek:

I think that about covers things. I'll be back later to see how things went in here.

Supah

[Supah Fly]

Originally posted by heathermiousse
I have grown up in a church and belive that the new king james version is the closest to the real translation, besides the old king james which in some cases is too hard for readers, so we go to the NKJV. I belive it is translated best from the orginal. Other versions someone writes and they water it down and the real meaning that God had intended is lost.

As I explained above, the most accurate version in a conceptual sense is the NIV. It comes closest to the ideology and conceptual feeling of the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic languages.

While it's true that the King James version did have 47 confirmed translators, it is based on the Bishops Bible, which is what was in wide use at the time before KJV was made official in 1611, and was written in the Kings English so the common folk of that day could understand it.

Thus to say that KJV or NKJV are the most accurate is a fallacy and erroneous. While I myself have never learned Greek, Medieval Latin, Middle-English, Aramaic or Hebrew, I have studied at great length, the history of the Bible and own several concordances.

Also, as I said previously, I prefer the NIV because it's a modernized version in which the language and metaphoric ideology of our time is utilized.

I'm not saying you're wrong or a lesser person for reading the ancient text as authorized by His Majesty, James VI of Scotland, I'm just saying it's not as accurate as you think.

[Supah Fly]

holysoldier4 wrote on 11-07-2002 09:32 PM:

hello there, AS I replyed to the question, I have a NIV and it is great except for there are mistakes in translating it. now as I think of what you said, I think you might be miss understanding the sentence.......when people copy the bible over and over in making their own translation, thats where it gets all messed up.

Perhaps you misunderstood me. You have two different translation methods - one is to translate word for word, and the second is to translate phrase by phrase. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. NAS is THE most accurate interpretion word for word, but has the problem of expressions and idioms.

Idioms and expressions are unique to a language and time period, and if translated word for word, do not make as much sense as if they were translated for what they meant, as in, using the modern vernacular equivalent.

The NIV was translated phrase by phrase, so idioms and expressions of the day are translated into a modern equivalent that would have more meaning to somebody reading it today.

Now, if you can show me with deft certainty where these mistakes are I shall consider that you have done some homework, but not enough. If you cannot show me, I shall be forced to dismiss this as simply your opinion, which you are entitled to and I shall go about preaching the Good NIV News.

[AnglSnshn777]

I must admit, I do like the NLT, and NIV... However, to NOT get into the beautiful descriptions in KJV and NKJV would be a travisty, and thus, a self-depraving notion.
I know it is hard to read,:kconf: and often confusing, but that is why it works when you have 2 or 3 versions... OR BETTER YET.....
A PARALLEL BIBLE.... :keek:

by the way RAVEN Tool is an awesome band, and one day those guys will become Christians!!! THEN WATCH OUT SATAN!
Love,
Sonshine Angel
:kangel:

[Driagg_goch]

I usually use my NIV. Mostly because its smaller and more portable.
I do also, at times us KJV, NKJV....blah blah blah blah blah.

The only point that I have to add is this. The Bible says that in the last days the meaning of the Word will be revealed.
(Thats not an exact quote so don't call me stupid because it dosen't match up with your version.)

All I know is that within the last several months I have begun re-reading the Bible, and its like I'm reading a whole new book. I don't know if its because I'm older or more mature than I used to be, but things seem to reach right out and slap me in the face now.
Things that I had once read over and thought nothing of have taken on new meaning.

I believe that if God has a message for YOU He will reveal it to you no matter what version you read. I don't think He would bother just using the KJV or NIV or any of the multitude of translations that are out there.

Don't limit the power of the Divine in your life. Always keep yourself open to God's voice from any direction.

[two_denarii]

I use the NIV, NKJV, NASB, and whatever Bible I need to for Bible study. I will compare them together.
As in the KJV debate, use it if you want but dont condemn the other translations. They are fine. I think you guys need to read the Bible for what it means on loving one another. Whether you read the KJV, NLT, NIV you will come up with Jesus saying love one another. Some of tihis debate is NOT loving one another.
A great website on this subject is http://www.unhindered.org/index2.html
So just give up on the KJV-only and don't look down on others who do not understand the KJV because it is from another time. The translators of the KJV was trying to make a translation for people in their times for them to understand. If you can understand it fine, but if you cant fine too.

[Samantha]

I chose NIV because it's bookoo easier to read.
This is my first time using this site and so far it's fun!
Well,God Bless.Bye-bye:kduh: