[Scott]

Lol, I'm with you on that one.

[Zooropa]

Originally posted by Euchre0
ok, hope i don't offend anyone by saying this, but i mostly go to those sites to get a good laugh by their ridiculous complaints.

I as well dislike those websites. Fundamentalism at its worst. Keep in mind that these are the websites that the world sees when forming their idea of Christians. Ugh. Go to Out Of The Void for an intelligent Christian view on the media

[Adam]

I as well dislike those websites. Fundamentalism at its worst. Keep in mind that these are the websites that the world sees when forming their idea of Christians. Ugh. Go to Out Of The Void for an intelligent Christian view on the media

This chap speaks the truth! Fundamentalism must be squashed with an iron fist.

[reags]

heh interesting site....

[Emi-chan]

Haha, I look at screenit.com sometimes, someone linked it already. They ARE useful in a way. I'm not really offended by language but some stuff in movies I just REALLY don't want to see and I'd like to be warned if possible. Plus, they always have spoilers, and I'm an idiot who can't resist reading spoilers even when warned.

Some sites DO take things a bit far. My sister and I were watching a kid-type movie and started making up things to put on a site like that. Bogus things like "Look, SWANS went by... SEXUAL INNUENDO!" and "They put a helmet on but didn't BUCKLE it... BAD ATTITUDE!" Very funny, and sometimes not too far from the truth of some rather dramatic sites.

[XtremeGodChaser]

Hey I really Need help from all of u... I need a movie for my youth group, we're having this movie day....so i need Movie's dat have something to do wit christianity , not gospel type but movie's dat have christian Element..

Was thinking of "A walk To remember" but bcoz d gal married to a non christian guy so , i'm afraid the youth got the wrong message.... So guyz really need yr help!

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by XtremeGodChaser

Hey I really Need help from all of u... I need a movie for my youth group, we're having this movie day....so i need Movie's dat have something to do wit christianity , not gospel type but movie's dat have christian Element..

Was thinking of "A walk To remember" but bcoz d gal married to a non christian guy so , i'm afraid the youth got the wrong message.... So guyz really need yr help!

I'd recommend Les Miserables -- it's such an amazing story of grace and redemption.

And, whatever you do, stay far, far away from Left Behind.

[Epi4sbass]

Originally Posted by XtremeGodChaser

Hey I really Need help from all of u... I need a movie for my youth group, we're having this movie day....so i need Movie's dat have something to do wit christianity , not gospel type but movie's dat have christian Element..

Was thinking of "A walk To remember" but bcoz d gal married to a non christian guy so , i'm afraid the youth got the wrong message.... So guyz really need yr help!

Actually A Walk to Remember (I don't know if you have seen it) has quite a bit of profanity. Just a little warning there...

That old martin luther movie is good (so is the new one but I don't think it is on video yet), but I bet it is a litlle boring for what you want...

then there is always that cartoon version of The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe (NOT the live action BBC one!)

... let me think...
Signs has a very good theist message (You could call it a christian message I suppose, yeah you could)...

There is a christmas movie(probably not what you want but oh well) called Joy Ride (or something like that) (btw there is a bad movie with a similar-or maby even the same- name so if you try to find this one be careful) about some teenagers who kidnap this old man and take him across the country, it is cool, it has some good music too(I can't remember if it is Audio A or DC talk right now).

That is about all I can think of... you can of course always go with a Billy Graham movie (uh... yeah) but in my experince they aren't to entetaining.

[rotj4]

whatever you do, stay far, far away from Left Behind.

Why?

[rotj4]

I have been using Christianspotlight and the plugged in sight to review movies for some time. Plugged in tends to be overly critical which is ok by me. Christian Spotlight is different based on the fact that regular people have a place at the bottum of each review to give their own reviews. It helps some as well. www.christiancinema.com is a great place to get movies. They distribute movies but they are also the company responsible for Mercy Streets, The Moment After, Lay It Down, Time Changer as well as several others.

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by rotj4

Why?

Because it's terrible, terrible art, full of theology that's less than great.

When Christians create a work of art that's truly excellent and praiseworthy, it deserves our support, and I intend to support it. However, Left Behind doesn't qualify; it has very little in common with good art.

[rotj4]

Because it's terrible, terrible art, full of theology that's less than great.

I was hoping for a little more specific answer.

When Christians create a work of art that's truly excellent and praiseworthy, it deserves our support, and I intend to support it.

Are you saying that a christian has never made a good movie worthy of our support.

However, Left Behind doesn't qualify; it has very little in common with good art.

Have you seen Left Behind II. If so....what was your opinion of it?

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by rotj4

I was hoping for a little more specific answer.

Then check out this or this or read this quote by CGR member Aaron Adams from this thread:

Originally Posted by Aaron Adams

Finally, we come to LaHaye/Jenkins. They make Christians look like buffoons, mutilate the Scriptures, capitalize on fallacious doctrine, and have helped reinforce the inherited Dispensationalism that so many Christians believe uncritically.

Originally Posted by rotj4

Are you saying that a christian has never made a good movie worthy of our support.

No, I am merely saying that Left Behind is terrible. However, most explicitly "Christian" films wind up being little more than propaganda, and fail to be art. The only exception I can think of off the top of my head is Mel Gibson's The Passion of the Christ. However, I think there are many great films made that probably had Christians participate in making them.

Read this article if you want to read a thought-provoking article on the type of movies Christians should be viewing and supporting.

Have you seen Left Behind II. If so....what was your opinion of it?

No, and I don't really have any desire to see it. I expect that it is more artless propaganda and poor theology.

[rotj4]

I am left to assume that your own personal opinion of the movie has been formed by reading these articles and listening to a ranting on the subject from our own Aaron Adams. One of the articles was a review done by a Catholic. I would expect a critical view of the movie from him based on the fact that it is a movie based on the rapture of the church and the tribulation to follow. You claim the movie does not resemble art yet you must understand that what one considers art is very subjective.

[R2D2]

Originally Posted by rotj4

I am left to assume that your own personal opinion of the movie has been formed by reading these articles and listening to a ranting on the subject from our own Aaron Adams.

No, my opinion of the movie has been formed by watching the movie, thinking critically about it and reading informed critiques of the movie/novels such as the ones I posted.

If you want to hear a greater diversity of opinions on the theology of Left Behind, read this thread.

Originally Posted by rotj4

One of the articles was a review done by a Catholic. I would expect a critical view of the movie from him based on the fact that it is a movie based on the rapture of the church and the tribulation to follow.

Actually, if you read that review, the review explicitly says that although he disagrees with the theology of the movie, he is critiquing it based on its artistic shortcomings:

Originally Posted by Rod Dreher

Two, my problems with this movie have nothing to do with religion; many good and intelligent people, among them dear friends, believe in the End Times theology espoused by Left Behind, and a film critic is in no position to judge them on this.

No, this is about art, and the wrongheaded idea that a movie should be judged on its usefulness in spreading a particular message (pop Catholicism has its own version of Left Behind, usually based around alleged Marian apparitions). It's about the difference between art and propaganda, and if the people who made Left Behind understood that distinction (and had a budget), they might have turned out something watchable instead of grindingly dull, achingly sincere shlock.

Originally Posted by rotj4

You claim the movie does not resemble art yet you must understand that what one considers art is very subjective.

You are correct in stating that there is a subjective element to the judging and valueing art. But I don't believe it is purely subjective, either; for example, I believe that I can objectively state that Beethoven's 5th Symphony and Bach's St. Matthew Passion are both hugely superior works of art to anything put out (for example) by Britney Spears.

By the same token, I can state that Left Behind is an artistically inferior movie.