Evolution in biology class...

bandjock4life · 04-12-2002, 06:07 PM

Hey guys, first post ever. We're "studying" evolution in biology and I of course don't believe in it. Any tips on how to oppose w/o offending anyone? Lemme know.

danalyn · 04-12-2002, 08:45 PM

Wo-hoo!! Congrats on first-ever post!!

Ok, back on topic: Firstly, in Sunday School last week, we got a big lecture on not standing up & storming out when Evolution is taught... sit and learn. You cannot argue something if you don't know what it is. ((works the same way in politics

)) Basically, be polite but firm... The thing is, you likely will offend people. But you may open other people's eyes to an option they never knew existed...

There are a great many threads in Apologetics about Creation vs. Evolution...

GMartin2R · 04-13-2002, 12:00 AM

yeah don't be insulting but let it be known that you don't agree. You can be like

"excuse me but i don't agree with that. Here's why..." or something like that.

musicman04 · 04-13-2002, 07:57 AM

First off, don't oppose the teacher during class. That'll just make him/her mad. I have a friend that went and talked to the teacher. He told her he didn't have a problem learning about evolution as a theory, but he could not answer an essay question (like on a test) that made you assume evolution was correct. He got to take tests that had a few different questions or something. The book was no longer making it a theory, they were making it the truth. You could ask your teacher about this and see if you could do what he did.

BTW, if you want reinforced in how true the creation story is, watch Kent Hovind's videos (available @ drdino.com). They're awesome. There's 7 of them and they go into everything. HOpe this helps. God Bless and keep playin'

Nate · 04-13-2002, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by GMartin2R
yeah don't be insulting but let it be known that you don't agree. You can be like

"excuse me but i don't agree with that. Here's why..." or something like that.

Let it be known that you don't agree, but I don't think you really need to explain why. Unless you are fully prepared to do so.

I don't think you want to get into any sort of argument with your teacher (or class) about it unless you really know why you believe evolution is false. It does no good to raise your hand in class and say, "Excuse me but i don't agree with that. Here's why..." if you don't know why.

I would however, suggest that you discuss this matter privately with your teacher. Let them know that you disagree with the theory of evolution and you would not like to have to compromise your beliefs by being forced to treat it as fact.

Hope this makes sense.

Travis · 04-14-2002, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by bandjock4life
We're "studying" evolution in biology and I of course don't believe in it.

Why is "studying" in quotations? Are you not really studying it?

Also, why is it a given that you don't believe in it? Lots of Christians believe in theistic evolution.

Nate · 04-14-2002, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by Travis
Lots of Christians believe in theistic evolution.

hehe.... I'm guessing this is all new to bandjock4life, Travis.

04-14-2002, 01:13 PM

Pay attention. Be very respectful. You could (polietly) as questoins like "How do we *know* that the earth is billions of years old? Were you there?" something like that...be very polite!! can't stress that enough! And when you are tested on it, answer the book answer, but write what you believe next to it.....don't be rude, don't be like "you're wrong." because that's just not nice.

and don't "argue" something unless you know your stuff reeeaallly well...
hope that helped some!

guyforGod · 04-15-2002, 12:20 AM

There is a whole lot of truth in evolution. Learn as much as you can about it. If your teacher tries to take some sort of theory based upon evolution and use it to disprove God, I see no problem in you going to them after class and talking to them about it. Be respectful, but seriously, keep an open mind. I think that too many Christians just run away from the issue with their tails between their legs because they don't want to be challenged.

guyforGod · 04-15-2002, 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by Travis

Also, why is it a given that you don't believe in it? Lots of Christians believe in theistic evolution.

*raises hand*

I do

nefossma · 04-22-2002, 12:02 AM

Ok...this is very hard to describe in a post of why macro-evolution is false but micro-evolution (small changes) is true. I recommend going to www.dino.com and viewing some of the videos there. Here's a little bit though. A lot of scientists believe in dating fossils by the rock layer they are in, but then they turn around and say they date the rock layers by the fossils they contain. It's circular reasoning and just makes the person look dumb. The flood "warped" things around and made things change in the 'rock layers'. The fossils and bones they dig up is 'evidence' they use to support evolution. But never do they reveal the truth about those bones. One shows a human-like animal (the one that was between ape and man). They said that this skeleton showed the 'evolutional process'. But later studies (about 25 years later) revealed that this skeleton was of a man who had arthritis in his lower back and made him constantly lean over, which changed his bone structer slightly. This proves many mistakes. Also, there are skeletons being found even today of man that are 20-some feet tall. If the story of evolution is true, wouldn't that mean that those skeletons should be found about 100-200 years from now? All these details can be viewed on those videos mentioned above. Don't be stupid and give in to the "billions of years of evolution" crap. Look at the stats: the more believers of evolution the less followers of Christ. But support what you believe in. Get the facts, then argue them...even in class. It isn't illegal to discuss God in school. Stand for God. Be a preacher at school and spread the truth. Use your school as a 'battle-ground'. When it for God.

Jay42 · 04-22-2002, 04:20 AM

Well, you probably have to study the Roman Empire, the KKK and the Nazis too. Of course you don't agree with their viewpoints but you are in the classroom to LEARN.

Whatever you do, please do it out of gentleness and reverence.

nefossma · 04-22-2002, 10:21 AM

Jay, I totally agree with your last post. But bandjock4life, my point is this: if they begin to make this 'viewpoint' of macro-evolution a fact, stand up and speak. There is a reason why the theory of evolution is just a theory: because they can't prove it. If in history class, you were studying the actions of the KKK and the teacher was teaching that those actions were correct and should never die out, I think every student would stand up and say something. But evolution is put on us as being absolute truth and not just a theory. Evolution has been disproved many times and proved zero. But as Jay said, object peacfully and with a good heart. God bless.

JaredR · 04-27-2002, 07:41 PM

you should gather information at home then say your opinion in class.......the teacher has no warrant to be mad......you have the right to voice your opinion......this is one of the other reasons i opose public schools

Travis · 04-27-2002, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by JaredR
you should gather information at home then say your opinion in class.......the teacher has no warrant to be mad......you have the right to voice your opinion......this is one of the other reasons i opose public schools

How stupid. You don't think that kids should learn about things just because you don't agree with those things??? I refer you to a post by Jay42:

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Originally posted by Jay42
Well, you probably have to study the Roman Empire, the KKK and the Nazis too. Of course you don't agree with their viewpoints but you are in the classroom to LEARN.