Is "You Said" scripturally correct?

Funky Mike · 04-04-2002, 05:02 PM

Hi-
I'm a worship leader, and i really strive to make sure that all the songs i do are scripturally sound, but im not sure about "You Said." The chorus goes something like-

You said "Ask and ill give the nations to you"
Oh Lord thats the cry of my heart
Distant shores and the islands will see
Your light as it rises on us

Now, as far as i know, Psalm 2 is the only place in scripture where God says that, and, although it is said, it seems to me like the song takes it way out of context. I'll let you read it for yourself instead of typing it out here, but i'd love to hear what y'all think about it.
Anyways, its a beautiful song, and i just wanted to see what you guys thought before i decided to stop doing it for good.

-Mike

Xkcer Man · 04-04-2002, 05:33 PM

Yes, that passage refers to Jesus. The only leverage I think people who say this song is sound have is that they're claiming their inheritance in Christ, but I think that's pushing it a little bit.

rockin4theking · 04-04-2002, 06:40 PM

I'd kinda agree that it's taking it out of context, but maybe not, depending on what the person who wrote it meant by it.

Xkcer Man · 04-04-2002, 07:34 PM

It doesn't really matter what Reuben Morgan meant when he wrote the song. It matters what David meant when he wrote Paslm 2, because that's the passage he wrote the song from.

kupcguitarkid · 04-04-2002, 07:40 PM

Theres already a huge thread on this one (which I started...hehe), but you might not want to read it.

My touh group sings it basically as a prayer to God for His glory to fill the earth, and the main part of the song for us is, "Distant shores and the islands will see Your light." We basically praise Him for that and it is a prayer that His name will be known through all the world

its confusing

Funky Mike · 04-05-2002, 10:12 PM

Well, i guess thats cool for you kupcguitarkid, but i'd rather not sing something to God about Himself if its not true. I'm still not really sure what David meant when he wrote Psalm 2, but it seems to me that its not the same as what "You Said" claims it to be. Where is that other post about the song at, i'd like to see what they had to say about it.

-Mike

Xkcer Man · 04-08-2002, 02:25 PM

I did no such thing. I didn't say "Reuben Morgan is stupid because he misapplied Scripture." I said "Reuben Morgan misapplied Scripture. I don't have to ask him to know that. That passage in Psalm 2 is not directed towards me or you; it's directed towards the coming Messiah.

It's the same thing as if I wrote a song that had the words "Lord, I'm Your son and You are well pleased in me." It's obvious that the verse I took this out of doesn't refer to me. Such is the case in the second Psalm.

BowoW · 04-11-2002, 09:57 PM

i take it as a prayer..

-jamie

d0c_99 · 04-20-2002, 02:08 PM

the context i sing it in is that if we pray and ask God to open the hearts and pave the way for us to reach the nations, He will hear our prayers.

I don't see anything wrong with the lyrics

okusooner · 10-14-2004, 10:49 PM

I agree with d0c_99. For me personally, this song means a lot! I was listening to this song on repeat one night after I had gotten back from church camp, and at that point I felt that God was calling me to be a medical missionary for the nations. It was ironic that I should be listening to that song, because on that very same CD there was a song called, "Break Me for the Nations". Instead of listening to "Break Me for the Nations"; however, I feel that God wanted me to hear "You Said" instead. It was obvious that I wanted God to "break me for the nations", yet I feel that God wanted missions to be the "cry of my heart". This song, in my opinion, is not saying that if I ask God He will make the nations my inheritance, but that if I ask God He will make the nations accessible for me to spread His word. I ask God daily to give me the nations, not that I plan on ruling the world, but that I want God to give me a heart for the nations and to open the doors for me to reach the nations. Ever since I heard this song I have become fascinated with globes and maps of the world. I have two globes sitting on my desk, and each day I remember that I long for God to give me the nations that I might be able to "go ye therefore and teach...” This song means so much to me, and to stop singing it, Mike, would seem very depriving to you and to all who hear it! If God felt that this song was taking scripture out of context, then I don’t think that He would have presented it to me and made it so dear to my heart. Please don’t risk the chance of preventing God to use this song in other individual’s lives! Don’t forget, the song also says, “…You said, ask and you will receive whatever you need. I John 5:14-15” It also says, “…pray and I’ll hear from heaven, and I’ll heal your land. 2 Chronicles 7:14” and it claims, “…You said your glory will fill the earth like water the sea. Hubakkuk 2:14”

God Bless!
-okusooner

xJonathanxLee · 05-30-2005, 01:54 AM

Psalms 2:7
I will declare the decree; the lord hath said unto me thou are my son; this day have I begotten thee.

I think David referred to him as himself. My opinion in verse 8 is I think if we pray to God and ask Him to use us, He will give us the world meaning that Through us, We shall tell the world about Jesus. I could be wrong though. Its bit confusing. I can't tell if its one of those prophecy scriptures or if its one of those message ones. I would stay with my opinion but what caught my eye was verse 9 "You will break them with an iron rod; you will shatter them in pieces like a clay pot." I'm starting to beleive that this scripture really is prophecizing the coming of Christ. I don't really know. It's a mystery. Is David referring to himself as Me? or is He referring Me as in Christ?

kriztofer · 04-22-2006, 10:13 AM

Perhaps we should think of the lyrics as...

You said, "Ask and I'll give the nations to Y ou (the Messiah)"
O Lord, that's the cry of my heart.
Distant shores and the islands will see Your Light
As it rises on us.

Therefore, it is my heart's desire that the Messiah would be Lord over the nations... NOT that I would ask and God would give ME the nations.

Jay42 · 04-22-2006, 12:30 PM

I find the song creepy, so that's why I avoid it like the plague.

So even if the lyrics are a match to scripture, are we not called to worship God in spirit and in truth? A spirit of creepiness belongs in SILENT HILL, not in worship!!!!

A thousand years from now, historians will review the lowest points in church history as:

1) The Crusades
2) The selling of indulgences for atonement
3) The song "You Said".

hugs!

kriztofer · 04-23-2006, 08:02 AM

what is "creepy" about this song?

Jay42 · 04-23-2006, 12:39 PM

Maybe it's the guy who I saw perform it.

He sang it like Creed's "One Last Breath" and looked totally angst-ridden.

He got really into it and very emotional. Whenever he got to the line "you said" he'd look up in the sky and cry it out - but it seemed to cross the line from being praises sent up to God and instead came across more like a juvenile tantrum.

He got so absorbed into it, I was expecting him to fall to the floor and cover himself in a mixture of his own tears and vomit.

No one could sing along to it either. We were too busy watching the spectacle.