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Ephesians 1:10

Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

What would a good explanation of "all things in ...." in this verse?

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Unread 08-24-2017, 01:03 AM   #2
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Eph 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

What would a good explanation of "all things in ...." in this verse?
Literally, all things.

Just as Christ created all things in the beginning (John 1), so the Father will gather together all things in Christ at the end of time, and the Creation will be offered to the Father through Christ.
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Literally, all things. Just as Christ created all things in the beginning (John 1), so the Father will gather together all things in Christ at the end of time, and the Creation will be offered to the Father through Christ.
It's an interesting verse, I was staring at it for ages trying to make sense of it.
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The NLT renders it like this.

9 God has now revealed to us his mysterious will regarding Christ—which is to fulfill his own good plan. 10 And this is the plan: At the right time he will bring everything together under the authority of Christ—everything in heaven and on earth. 11 Furthermore, because we are united with Christ, we have received an inheritance from God, for he chose us in advance, and he makes everything work out according to his plan.

The NASB.

9 He made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His kind intention which He purposed in Him 10 with a view to an administration suitable to the fullness of the times, that is, the summing up of all things in Christ, things in the heavens and things on the earth. In Him 11 also we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to His purpose who works all things after the counsel of His will, 12 to the end that we who were the first to hope in Christ would be to the praise of His glory.


I'm inclined to agree with Isaac here. "Everything" or "all things" would include all of creation.
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I think Isaac is right here too. There are other passages that talk about "all things" (inclusive) being subject to Christ and being restored in Christ. I think this passage has them (perhaps both) in mind. How inclusive is informed in part by later in the chapter as well:

20 that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places,
21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come.
22 And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church,
23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.



Other related verses on the complete subjection of all things, in heaven and on earth, to Christ:

Philippians 3:21
who will transform the body of our humble state into conformity with the body of His glory, by the exertion of the power that He has even to subject all things to Himself.

1 Corinthians 15:28
When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

Hebrews 1:8
[quoting Psalm 8] "putting everything in subjection under his feet.”
Now in putting everything in subjection to him [Jesus], he [God the Father] left nothing outside his [Jesus'] control. At present, we do not yet see everything in subjection to him.



Likewise, there are passages that connect Christ's return and restoring "all things". That is, not only will everything be submitting to Christ, but everything will be repaired or fixed (made new). They will be glorified, improved upon.

Acts 3
19 Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out, 20 that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, 21 whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago.

There is a curious phrase by Christ that seems to indicate this same vein. Matthew 19:28
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28 Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, [note: or in the regeneration] when the Son of Man will sit on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel
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"at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne"
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"in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne"
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"when the world is made new and the Son of Man sits upon his glorious throne"

Revelation 21:5
And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” (Context is the vision of the New Heavens and New Earth, in which God's dwelling is with mankind)


The traditional way of understanding Romans 8:18-25 speaks of creation being subject to a curse but will be made subject to Christ. So, right now creation waits in anticipation of the resurrection, i.e., being restored and glorified under Christ. The wording is key "the whole creation" is in view.

In other words, I think the passage in Eph you've come across, the "gathering" all things has in mind these two motifs: complete submission (expansion of kingdom, no rebellion) and glorification (fixing, improving, honoring) of everything God has made, which happen at the resurrection, when Christ returns.
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It might help to clarify to point this out: very often, the word the New Testament uses that is translated as 'world' is the Greek word 'kosmos'. That should tell you something important.
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With Mary we behold it, the Virgin Mother kind,
To show God's love aright, she bore to us a Saviour,
When half-spent was the night.

O flower whose fragrance tender with gladness fills the air,
Dispel with glorious speldour the darkness everywhere,
True man, yet very God! From sin and death He saves us,
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