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Unread 12-17-2019, 08:47 PM   #61
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You guys lost me. I don't understand your thought process in to saying he hasn't done what the house has accused him of and why it isn't impeach able anyways.

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Unread 12-18-2019, 11:25 AM   #62
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The House is voting on impeachment today.

They just voted on rules and, as expected, voting went according to party lines. Interestingly two Democrats sided with Republicans, but one of those Democrats announced a few days ago that he was switching parties. Amash, ex-Republican and now Independent sided with Democrats.

I'll be sending my representative some disapproving emails later today. As is tradition.
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I think It comes down to: You think what he did was not inappropriate. However I have heard contradicting things. 1) it wasnt really quid pro quo; 2) his pressure on Ukraine by withholding vital defense funds is totally normal and everyone does it, so not a big deal.

Both, I think, are wrong. 1) this easily constitutes quid pro quo, or undue pressure on a foreign power to investigate a political rival for explicitly self-serving political reasons. The arguments against this are, I think, weak. Especially the notion that Trump is concerned with corruption in Ukraine. According to the testimonies thus far, he has low regard for the Ukraine and doesnt care about the place, not wanting to meet with the President if Ukraine. He only cared about the place because it could impact the US presidential election.

2) all of the testimonies by credible, eyewitness sources indicate this is NOT usual. I know we all like the drama of television and film and seem to think that the world operates how these mediums imply they do, but it doesnt. That isnt to say, of course, that US politics probably operates in some ways nationally on some basis of "favour" or "gift". I'm honestly not sure. But, what I do know is that credible sources that deal with international level interaction say that what Trump was doing was not usual and was extremely inappropriate. This is why the info was hidden and classified, the transcript password protected.

Further, it really makes no difference if other presidrnts have done similar. I know some of you think that Hillary and Obama are murderers or something (I'm guessing the Seth Rich conspiracy? How odd), but that is not what is beig discussed. If Obama was attacking a political rival by pressuring the literal existence of another nation unless they started a phony investigation then this would be impeachable. Obviously.

What Obama or whoever has done has nothing to do with this. Sorry. Alleged hypocrisy has no bearing on the argument, and it isnt convincing.
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https://medium.com/@historiansonimpe...p-6e4ed2277b16

An open letter from more than 700 historians that talk about the veracity of the impeachment claims. Short and sweet.
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Do ald Trump becomes the third president to ever be impeached.

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/18/78902...istoric-rebuke
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Jesus. There it is.

Tim Pool is NOT an umbiased source Lee. You seem to think you are super objective about everything while spending time watching conspiracy theorists and "journalists" who hang out with alt right white nationalists like the Proud Boys.

Bro. Seriously. These are NOT good sources. They are grifters and conspiracy theorists. Like of the highest level. Andy Ngo level. You may as well be watching Fox News. But actually this is worse cause Fox at least has Chris Wallace, who challenges the state media.
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Where should I get an unbiased view into what is happening?
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Come on man. You are being unfair here.

Pointing out that Tim Pool is an apologist for alt-right gangs isn't that controversial. Any member of the media that hangs out with a violent gang and plays to their base is not worth listening to.

We need to be extremely wary about fascist propaganda during a preiod in which it is alive and well.
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Where should I get an unbiased view into what is happening?
I think we would all agree here that there isnt any unbiased source. So we probably need to 1) consider the source. Meaning, don't listen to people who support alt-right gangs or who are quite obviously trying to energise their base through dog whistling (for instance, Breitbart). 2) weigh those reputable sources you do find against each other. 3) weigh sources based on authority. 4) don't take anything for granted.

I'm not saying I do all of those perfectly. But, hell y'all. Dont you recall how massive misinformation is in the internet/social media age? Dont you recall that Russia was undoubtedly engaged, and continues to engage, in a massive misinformation campaign in order to sew division amd skew things toward whatever policies and politicians would influence world governance in their direction?
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Also I'm really Sorry that I am quiet with this thread anr havent properly responded to comments. Ive been working a lot And havent had time at all to write long posts.
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Sorry dude. Not true at all. Again, he is a documented far right grifter who hangs out with Baked Alaska, Allsup of Identity Evropa, Brittney Pettibone, and others.

He defends people like Gavin McInnes and the Pround Boys. Did so several times, like on the Joe Rogan Podcast.

Spreads lies by far right liar Jacob Wahl.

Not sure why you don't trust MSM, but do some weirdo in a beanie.
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I'm just worried that one of us on here will take what the other one says too personally.

I hope nothing I've said has been out of line. It is hard to tell through text.
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Interesting:


https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct...om-office.html
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Now the Senior Editor of the *NATIONAL REVIEW* , a quite conservative And well known publication, is calling for Trump's impeachment.

https://www.nationalreview.com/magaz...hment/#slide-1

He does a good job of showing that the defenses of Trump rely in willful disbelief.

The case here is very strong.
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The end game is upholding the laws of our nation by holding a corrupt president accountable. I think it's that simple.
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